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#104541 - 03/10/03 03:10 PM Would this make Joe Mad?  
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Joe,

Can you please post these pictures with title "Would this make Joe Mad?"

[Linked Image]

The first picture is an extension cord I found in the shop and the second picture is after I confiscated the cord and put it in my safety museum.

[Linked Image]

You can see the condition of the cover in the second picture.

Scott


[This message has been edited by Joe Tedesco (edited 03-10-2003).]


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#104542 - 03/10/03 03:28 PM Re: Would this make Joe Mad?  
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First: A metal plate is only a few cents more, if you're so determined to do something like this.

Second: why not just use a female in-line rubber connector instead of a box like that?

[Linked Image]

It will take knocks better and is designed for "home-made" cords or repairing the ends on extensions. The steel-armored ones are even better for heavy duty use.

Not to mention it's probably much much cheaper than a box, plus strain relief, plus socket, plus cover-plate. Not to mention a couple of bucks for a roll of 'lektrishun's tape...

It would make Joe ... less mad....maybe. [Linked Image]

[This message has been edited by SvenNYC (edited 03-10-2003).]


#104543 - 03/10/03 05:15 PM Re: Would this make Joe Mad?  
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Well they did use a bell box versus the more popular "make Joe mad" KO box.

Look, in all fairness how about a quad bell box with metal or nylon plate and a compression cord grip. That is pretty safe if you must have one of these. And hey, if you really want a safe unit add a GFCI.


#104544 - 03/10/03 07:56 PM Re: Would this make Joe Mad?  
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Appears to be a 20 amp receptacle but a 15 amp plug.


#104545 - 03/10/03 08:13 PM Re: Would this make Joe Mad?  
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As the person who sent this to Joe I can tell you it is in worse shape than it looks. You cannot see the cut insulation and the flat spot where it was run over by a foklift. However if you look at the top of the first picture you can see the orange tape that was used to repair it in the past.

Scott


#104546 - 03/10/03 09:34 PM Re: Would this make Joe Mad?  
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If you disregard the receptacle and focus on the cord fixed with tape, I see this every day!

Cords get slaughtered by lifts all the time and I have spent a lot of time unplugging and cutting bad cords.

I guess it's just something we have to live with. At least 2-3 cords per job die. [Linked Image] C'est la vie.


Pete

#104547 - 03/11/03 05:59 PM Re: Would this make Joe Mad?  
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I thought that piece of orange tape was duct tape or some such other adhesive tape that always gets stuck on extension cords for some reason. [Linked Image]

I really do hope the male plug was a deadfront....


#104548 - 03/11/03 06:44 PM Re: Would this make Joe Mad?  
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Er, FWIW, there are gizmos that are intended for the purpose, like http://www.danielwoodhead.com/catalog/portable_power/PPOB_edob.htm
[No published buoyancy data, though.]


#104549 - 03/11/03 08:08 PM Re: Would this make Joe Mad?  
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Hi Guys,

FYI
This is an OSHA violation!
These are not "listed" devices and are a no-no on any job site.

Dave


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#104550 - 09/22/03 07:40 AM Re: Would this make Joe Mad?  
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Thanks Dave:

There are many cords of this type that are still in use in many places, and as you stated violate OSHA rules.

Does anyone have an updated list to the 2002 NEC for the OSHA references in 1926 and 1910?


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