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#101959 - 03/26/04 07:09 PM Section 24
crash Offline
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Registered: 10/21/03
Posts: 130
Loc: Calgary Canada
Is a medical clinic considered to be a "Health Care Facility"?

Is an examination room within a clinic considered to be a "Basic Care Area"?

Any information would be helpfull.

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#101960 - 03/26/04 08:19 PM Re: Section 24
twh Offline
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Registered: 03/11/04
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Loc: Regina, Sask.
Try hostboard.
http://www.hostboard.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi/ubb/forum/f/511

jeeper knows this stuff and I don't know if he comes here.

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#101961 - 03/27/04 12:06 AM Re: Section 24
electricguy Offline
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Posts: 5
yes it is and also dental offices it is a patient care enviroment

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#101962 - 03/27/04 09:33 AM Re: Section 24
CRM Offline
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Registered: 02/29/04
Posts: 73
Loc: Alberta Canada
Yes, I believe clinic and dentist examination rooms are patient care areas, if you have an internet search program, type CSA Standard Z32, a lot of good information comes up on wiring methods for section 24.

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#101963 - 03/27/04 12:05 PM Re: Section 24
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Registered: 05/15/01
Posts: 144
Loc: CANADA
Questions have risen as to what areas are now covered under the “Health Care Facilities” definitions of the 2002 Ontario Electrical Safety Code.



Background:

Traditionally, Section 24 was limited to inside Hospital facilities. As health care treatment changes, so do the locations that these treatments take place.

The introduction of the 2002 Code saw the scope of 24-000 changed from “Hospitals” to “ Health Care Facilities”.

Further examination of the definitions in this section shows that this change includes a number of additional facilities that are now required to meet the requirements of Section 24. This would include almost anywhere health related services are delivered.

This change from "hospital(s)" to "health care facility(ies)" has been made throughout Section 24 and Appendix B, to harmonize Section 24 with the CAN/CSA-Z32.

The CSA, Z32 Standard provides a variety of examples of such health care facilities, and in addition to hospitals these examples include surgical, outpatient and doctor's clinics, dentist offices, psychiatric and rehabilitation facilities.

The standard further subdivides health care facilities into three separate classes as follows:

Health care facility, Class A - a hospital,.....

Health care facility, Class B - a facility where residents, as a result of physical or mental disabilities, are unable to function independently .....

Health care facility, Class C - a facility where ambulatory patients are accommodated on the basis of medical need and are provided with supportive, diagnostic, and treatment services.

Tony Moscioni
Electrical Inspector
Electrical Safety Authority

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#101964 - 03/27/04 01:36 PM Re: Section 24
twh Offline
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Registered: 03/11/04
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Tony: Sorry about referring this to the other message board. I never stopped to think who the moderator here is. I guess I lost my head.

tim

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#101965 - 03/27/04 04:42 PM Re: Section 24
crash Offline
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Thanks for the information guys. Especially the information on the change in the scope of section 24.

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#101966 - 04/01/04 10:54 AM Re: Section 24
ggardiner Offline
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Registered: 10/22/01
Posts: 81
Loc: Calgary, Alberta Canada
Tony does the section you quoted from the Ontario code book relate to the rest of Canadas interputations?

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#101967 - 04/01/04 01:29 PM Re: Section 24
Tony Moscioni Offline
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Yes . . .

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