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Posted By: Trumpy Got one of these? - 03/11/05 10:40 AM
Here is a rather interesting tool I found on the Net tonight.
It's made by a local company, here in NZ.

[Linked Image]

It puts a bell mouth on the end of 20,25,32 and 40mm PVC Conduits.
Sure saves the cost of extra sockets or more conduit. [Linked Image]
Posted By: 32VAC Re: Got one of these? - 03/11/05 12:18 PM
Who manufactures these items? DO you do the flaring of the end of the conduit at ambient temperature or do you heat the pipe up prior to flaring the pipe?
Posted By: Dapo Re: Got one of these? - 03/12/05 01:14 PM
Hi 32Vac

Yes you have to apply heat to the end of the conduit, and it does make an excellent bell when done properly. I am not sure of the manufacturer, though I bought one years ago here in Australia.

PS it wasn't too hard to get right either, or I wouldn't have had any success.

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Posted By: Trumpy Re: Got one of these? - 03/13/05 08:58 AM
32VAC,
The thing is called a Belmate, it's made locally here in Ashburton.
The Company is New Zealand Insulators and if you want one I can send you one.
Just email me, using the [Linked Image] above. [Linked Image]


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Posted By: Alan Belson Re: Got one of these? - 05/23/05 09:02 PM
Is that a piece of red hot metal you're holding Trumpy? How comes your hand isn't on fire?

Alan

Right! Ho! Back to the 'interesting' neutral fault! I'm rivetted! I bet it's the guy in the middle apartment with a switch, tapped into the cable, laughing his socks off as B. runs up and down the stairs!
"ON! Ha! ha! ha! haaaa!- Here he comes now!
OFF! Har! ha! ha! har! Ooooh, my sides!"
Posted By: kiwi Re: Got one of these? - 05/24/05 09:19 AM
Wow Trumpy, I don't think Marley & Clipsal want us to have that tool, otherwise we'd have no off-cuts and end up using half as much conduit as we do now. Their sales would plummet.

It looks like you just heat the pipe up with a heat-gun and hammer that thing into the end ? Thats a great idea, where can I buy one of these ?
Posted By: Trumpy Re: Got one of these? - 05/24/05 10:39 PM
kiwi,
You don't even need a hammer.
You just heat the conduit and force the form in the end of the conduit give it a few twists and you're done!.
NZ Insulators market them, but if you ask at your local Ideal store they could more than likely get you one, or give NZI a ring.
Saves gluing conduit sockets all over the place. [Linked Image]

Alan, what have you been smoking that you shouldn't have been?. [Linked Image]
Posted By: Alan Belson Re: Got one of these? - 05/25/05 08:58 AM
Trumpy
2 pints of "Stun'em"!
Alan
Posted By: Belgian Re: Got one of these? - 05/25/05 01:59 PM
Alan can you send me 2 pints and I'll force the guy on the second floor to drink it, so that he will be too stunned to touch that switch of yours!
Posted By: Alan Belson Re: Got one of these? - 05/25/05 02:40 PM
I mentioned Jummy Simmon's "Stun'em" in an earlier post. Jummy is still alive BTW, I saw him last winter in Christchurch Gloucester. The old pub is long gone- sold, modernised and 'ruined' with a fancy chef now. Alongside the famous brew, (a home-made product of course, no respectable Brewery would have dared sell it), one could also get his "bit o 'ome-cur'd bacon". The pig (always a Gloucester 'Old Spot')was reared in the back garden and allowed to grow to enormous proportions, 5 or 600lb. Killed out by Mr Hughes senior at your premises, it was so big they used to cover the carcase in barley straw and set light to it to get the bristles off! Turn and repeat. Now the curing: the whole carcase, minus head and feet was buried in a mountain of salt on a massive stone slab. As it dry cured, brine ran off via a channel carved round the edge. Curing took at least 6 weeks so the kill was always in winter. One final point; local folk-lore was that women were not allowed to touch the pig or take any part in the procedings or it would "go off wrong". The final product was as salt as hell, and consisted predominantly of cholesterol, a good hand cut rasher being practically pure white fat!
Stun'em is in fact not strictly a beer. The base was cider from Hereford apples, brewed in beer barrels. A piece of mutton was hung in the barrel ( later roasted) during brewing, and brewers' yeast ( they added bottled Guinness which is live ), malt and hops added in generous measure. To get the taste of Stun'em, simply mix bottled or draft Guinness and a good cider together, but take it easy - all alcohol has to be treated with caution.
Cheers!
Alan
Posted By: Trumpy Re: Got one of these? - 05/28/05 02:55 AM
Just a little note about PVC conduit.
Back when I first started my time as an Electrical apprentice, I thought all this conduit work stuff was really easy, with respect to bending it and so forth.
I'd really only worked with 20, 25 and 32mm stuff at the time, which of course you can bend reasonably easily with an internal bending spring over your knee.
Having some 40 and 50mm conduit turn up on a job we were doing, changed that idea.
For the first few off-sets that needed to be done on the runs of conduit, I was taught to heat the conduit up (carefully!) with a heat gun and then coax it into shape.
At least that was the theory anyway, I wrecked a few bends in the process when I'd bend the conduit either the wrong way or it was bent too far and couldn't be bent back without it "rippling". GRRR
Mind you, it seems to me that a lot of Electricians here these days just use a conduit socket and change to flexible for the off-set and then back to rigid again using another socket.
Having got used to bending the larger sizes of PVC conduit now, I prefer to bend it over any other method, it looks neater too.
Good lord Alan,
That sounds like an interesting (yet dangerous) concoction, it's sort of hard to imagine how a drink like that would taste.
As for the bacon, it's really hard to find decent bacon these days, like a lot of other things, the Cholestrol Police have cracked down on anything that tastes anything remotely like real food, and made it all "98% Fat (and taste) Free". [Linked Image]
Posted By: Alan Belson Re: Got one of these? - 05/28/05 08:35 PM
We have to import our bacon, (and tea, and Heinz baked-beans), so it's a rare treat nowadays. I could woff, right now, 3 unsmoked back rashers and a fried egg in a giant American hamburher bap, slightly toasted, with lettuce, tomato and mayo and a big mug of 'builders'( half a pint of stewed, strong tea, color of bitumen,).
Sigh!
Alan


Alan
Posted By: Alan Belson Re: Got one of these? - 05/30/05 09:50 AM
Trumpy,
Q. How do you know when a plane load of Brits arrives at Aukland airport?
A. The whining continues after the engines stop.
Alan

*typo*

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Posted By: Trumpy Re: Got one of these? - 06/01/05 05:59 AM
Ouch!,
That's a bit rough. [Linked Image]
Mind you, they'd go a long way to drown out the whining that's already going on there. [Linked Image]

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