You electrical guys fuss about the most trival things...

You know if you take the lightbulbs out of the freezer you can derate the nameplate specs by 25 watts...

On the serious side...that violates soooo much....

RSlater,
RSmike

I know diddley-squat, but that receptacle located over the sink is a positive death-trap. If someone trips and grabs on that freezer cable, the radio/CD will fall straight into the sink. I wouldn't eat there either, if their idea of defrosting meat is to run the faucet over it. The 'U' bend under that sink is probably half full of rotting flesh! YUK!

Alan

ps. Just noticed there's a grotty sponge parked on the drainer. Prob'ly got enough bugs in that to kill half the clientelle!

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I can understand hooking things up to what's there in the building, even if it's under-rated, runs over a stove, etc., etc., etc.

What I don't understand is WHY someone would do a hack job like that instead of putting a 20A cord cap on the cord? The cord cap is easier, neater, safer, and almost legal. What possible motive is there to put the effort into assembling this kind of an abortion??

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That's scary. I hoped you removed those radios on the shelf too.

Health wise I see no gross violations. I think that is how meat is supposed to be defrosted by health department. I'm not so sure that is a sponge as a pair of gloves.

All I really see is that the plug needs a cover or be changed to GFCI. Also they could clean the cove moulding tiles better.

In defense of this diner, I must point out that 1) he's trying, 2) most of the really bad things I've cleaned up were done by the prior tenant, and 3) this very busy place is actually kept quite clean. Not bad, when you consider that most, if not all, of the folks that work there grew up in mud huts, and everyone's english vocabulary, combined, might be enough to converse at a first-grade level!

So how did I fix this? I removed the receptacle that you see, replacing it with a "Bell" extension and blank plate. I ran a length of pipe (with mineralacs) to the end of the sink, where I surface-mounted a "Bell" box.
Placing a 20 amp receptacle was not a problem; not only was it a 20 amp circuit, this is the only outlet on the circuit (as best I could tell).

With the receptacle moved, the radio (of necessity) was also moved to the end of the sink area.

GFCI protected?

Bob

GFCI protected?
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Not in a commercial kitchen.

I'm sorry- I absolutely DID use a GFI receptacle.

SE, you're technically correct, as Reno is under the 2002 code. Under the 2005, a receptacle (and not 'hard wire') would need GFI protection.

California is under 2002 code.

A meat department is a "washdown" area. Only because the hired help will hose the walls. What type of cover (even though rated) is actually washdown rated. I've seen W/P Covers even In-Use covers used and the devices don't last 1 year. Now, couple that with a GFI Recpt which will fail in a year, even if it not used and you have your next service call.
Its just not right! Even if it is safer for the employee.

JMHO

Rob

2002 NEC

I hope they're not defrosting that meat in the sink with the tap pouring over it. That is both a really bad way to defrost meat and a huge waste of water.