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Posted By: Admin Some Restaurant Photos .... - 12/08/04 10:41 PM
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The owner wants to fix this but is waiting on the bank for a loan

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Posted By: Admin Re: Some Restaurant Photos .... - 12/08/04 10:43 PM
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Posted By: Admin Re: Some Restaurant Photos .... - 12/08/04 10:45 PM
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Posted By: Trumpy Re: Some Restaurant Photos .... - 12/08/04 10:47 PM
Boy,
Has someone got some work to do or what?!!.
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Posted By: uksparky Re: Some Restaurant Photos .... - 12/08/04 11:13 PM
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Posted By: nesparky Re: Some Restaurant Photos .... - 12/09/04 03:32 AM
This resturant is only the start of what we hope will be a winter of repairing about 35 years of neglect and dumb DIY maintence of the former owner of the small resort. The place is a camp ground and beach/ swimming lake set up. Have already disposed of two small building that were worse than this. Only two concrete slabs left where those over grown huts were. Most of the origional work is still good where the former owner did not modify the building, unfortunatly the resturant has been played with several times. I have spent over 100 hours just making things work and rendering thing safe just to get them out of thier season. Most of this cr** will be removed and replaced when the bank comes thru with the money. Right now most of this shut down.

I filled up my camera in about 5 min here I wish I had more time to go back and get more pics.
There ia a bath house that the want to restore to use but it's so bad that I removed the power to it. There is a concession in a bit better shape than the resturant but still needs work.
Three rental apartments and two rental houses to completly rewire and the need lots of other repairs. They cannot rent them now.

And Last but not least a 175' tall light house that is home to a he** of a lot of bats and rodents that needs a lot of work.

I'll have a lot of work if and when the bank comes thru. Unfortunatly we have been waiting for over 3 months.
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Posted By: electure Re: Some Restaurant Photos .... - 12/09/04 01:03 PM
Maybe the best tools to start the job would be a big Caterpillar Dozer, and a Tracked Loader with a Clamshell Bucket.
Posted By: electricman2 Re: Some Restaurant Photos .... - 12/09/04 04:41 PM
Wonder who "Ken Rickard" is? Maybe you can get him to help. [Linked Image]
Posted By: mamills Re: Some Restaurant Photos .... - 12/09/04 07:51 PM
Just kinda curious...What is that big locked enclosure above the FPE disco? CT can maybe?

Mike (mamills)

Is all the electrical equipment as greasy as the kitchen... [Linked Image]?
Posted By: nesparky Re: Some Restaurant Photos .... - 12/10/04 05:09 AM
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Correct. that is the main service feed/ CT can. It hard to tell from the pictures but a large furnace is only 18" in front of the FPE panel.
Also the panel inside the chase with all the loose wiring is 8' above the floor above the wall with all the junky outlets. Also I did not take off any panel or covers when I took these photos. Some of the panel covers are long gone.
And yes the panels in the kitchen are greasy.
If the bank comes thru I'll be working a lot of hours.
Posted By: mxslick Re: Some Restaurant Photos .... - 12/10/04 06:41 AM
On the last pic,("page 4") the 3ph disco, is that melted tar or potting compound on the right side? From the CT cabinet, maybe?
Posted By: Steve Miller Re: Some Restaurant Photos .... - 12/10/04 08:05 PM
Better be a big loan
Posted By: nesparky Re: Some Restaurant Photos .... - 01/24/05 04:15 PM
still waiting on the bank.
Now having to try to find out why they have higher electric bills when mostly closed than when they were open during the season.
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Posted By: mamills Re: Some Restaurant Photos .... - 01/24/05 04:49 PM
It's the electricity leaking out of those panels without the covers... [Linked Image]

When (or if) this job works out, I hope you'll supply some "after" pics.

Mike (mamills)
Posted By: Haligan Re: Some Restaurant Photos .... - 01/26/05 05:33 AM
Definitely would like to see your work afterwards. AND, if you don't mind, I'd like to see your punch list for all of the stuff you did.

Whenever I've ended up in a fubar situation (none this bad) I've had to draw a schematic and label things on paper. It's too much for my memory.
Posted By: PCBelarge Re: Some Restaurant Photos .... - 01/27/05 03:54 AM
I have seen this in these types of occupancies before, and then a new ownere takes over and finds distress when they find the truth to the cost.

In one photo, I see the panel door open from the right side. I have yet to see this before. Is this the print backwards or the real way?

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Posted By: nesparky Re: Some Restaurant Photos .... - 01/27/05 04:31 AM
That is the way that panel door is. Actually it is one of the few panel doors or covers that are still there. All the others that show no panel covers are that way and the covers are long gone.
right now the power company's bill is for more than when the place was open for the season. I put a recorder on the main power leads and got less than 1/3 the KWH the power company is billing for.
the power there is 120/240 3phase center tapped celta feed. Actual voltage is A phase 125 to gnd B phase 218 to gnd C phase 124 to gnd 243 phase to phase.
Hve a meeting with the power company's meter people and the customer service guy tommarrow.
Bank is still dragging feet.
Posted By: :andy: Re: Some Restaurant Photos .... - 02/06/05 07:13 PM
looks like someone was running the add-a-panel technique there.
Why buy a big one, get the small one, oh we need some mor circuits, mount another small one, and so on...
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