Good Grief Randy!,
I've seen some badly deteriorated wiring in my time, but that lot really takes the cake.
Opening the wall is a bit of an understatement, Randy!.
That riser pic is a shocker, it's a woder the cables haven't faulted since.
And you'd think they could have at least come back and fixed things up.
I mean 26 years is a pretty poor turn-around for good service and customer relations.......
BTW, Randy, what is that small twin core wire in the pic, where your hole in the wall next to the fireplace is?.

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A plastic box with AC cable, that makes for good work. It looks as though whoever installed this knew there was no EGC and tried to alter this with an additional EGC. If this customer was/is an unsuspecting type, than it is a shame that this has existed this long. Unfortunately, it looks as though they may not have too much money and may have suffered through this for a while. They are very lucky to have the result be that Randy got there. It is good for us as well ...we get some good photos

Pierre

Mike wrote:


LOL Mike.. the wall was already soft from moisture seepage through cracks arounf the fireplace.. I pushed it a bit & it broke right through! The twin core is for speakers..

Pierre, Im with you on this stuff being like this for wayyyyy to long! They don't seem to be poor financially, although the HO is on disability right now.. They've lived here since 1966 & the home is paid for.. I'm trying to talk home improvement loan with them to get everything corrected.. Im afraid of what else might be buried in those walls along with the obvious amateur work, so I'm kinda hinting rewire at them!

-Randy

Waddaya mean rewire, Randy? This place has already been rewired!
Look, they even added extra insulation in the 4-0 box (9th pic)

electure wrote:


LMAO Scott... You wouldn't want those wire to get too cold now would you! It was only about 150°F in that attic when I took the pics! You'd know, Pomona isn't known for cool summer temperatures! (This was walking distance from the LA County fairgrounds for all who're familiar with So California)...

-Randy

Let it burn. Yuck!

I guess that's why NYC requires MC cable...rodents...

I guess that's why NYC requires MC cable...rodents...

Using that assumption, shouldn't MC be required in all Lawyer's offices?

Funny you should say that... I just got through running a dedicated circuit in a lawyers office in MC cable.... (Actually a collections attorney) Trying to run 8 laser printers @ 7.8A each & a 12A copier on the same circuit... He wanted a bigger breaker LOL.... It's amazing how someone can be a higher education graduate & then be completely clueless in other respects...

-Randy

I've found that in this world there are smart people and there are educated people, but not all smart people are educated and not all educated people are smart.

In defense of the rodents that stuff is actually pretty tasty.

Randy
Tell the lawyer you have a special wired chair just for him Old Sparky from the prison

Trumpy You don't understand the mast was a temporary repair. The permanant repair is in the work order system somewhere.

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Love the visible signs of overheating...

And nesparky - I saw the hard copy of that work order... they'll be there next week...

I've heard rodents instinctually NEED to chew on things. How they chew on Romex without getting fried is anybodys guess...
SteveMc: How is that whitish box supported, and what is it made of? I've never seen one that color before.

Sounds like a lawsuit to me!

Rodent's teeth never stop growing, well at least until they die. They keep gnawing to grind down them down.