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Posted By: Admin Dining Hall Feeder - 07/31/01 02:45 AM
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2000V #6-3 SOW Cable feeding a 200A panel for a dining hall. This hall will be used for the upcoming music festival. I removed the panel cover so I could check voltage drop and amperage concerns after seeing this feed.

With the fryer, lights and oven and cooler running, the current reads about 88 amps per leg... The voltage? 108V and 109V ... That doesn't include coffee pots, beer coolers, heat lamps, etc. etc.

I'm told the feed is fed from a 70A Breaker. (?) It comes from across the road (through rigid pipe not buried) from a dwelling about 250' away, but there is 500' of cable looped back and forth... (the owner didn't want to cut the cable...)

I asked a maintenance man about the dining hall and "no one has had any trouble..." He also said "It's mining wire, it'll handle that building..."

If you look closely, the White Conductor (Hot) and Red Conductor (Neutral) have a small green companion... it appears to be steel cable with a non-dielectric green covering. (Like clothes line wire!)

I will be typing up a disclaimer to cover myself here...

-Virgil


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Posted By: Tom Re: Dining Hall Feeder - 07/31/01 10:40 PM
Virgil,

That is definitely mine cable. The "greens", I believe, are for the ground check circuit.

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Tom
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Dining Hall Feeder - 07/31/01 10:45 PM
>the White Conductor (Hot) and Red Conductor (Neutral)
I'm not coming to help you after all.
Posted By: sparky66wv Re: Dining Hall Feeder - 08/01/01 03:38 AM
I had assumed the greens were "messenger" wire, for strength, marked green to hopefully insure bonding.(?)

They appeared to be steel inside a translucent green sheath, not unlike clothes-line...

Dspark... You ain't seen nuthin' yet!

I see this stuff almost every day... no exaggeration! I'll keep posting the good ones like this... Once again, a macro lens type camera would be more useful for most that I run into... (Due to lack of working clearances and the minimum 3' focus on my current camera, well, you get the idea!)


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Posted By: electure Re: Dining Hall Feeder - 08/01/01 11:46 AM
What is is that gives this cable a 2000V rating? The part in the pic doesn't appear to be any different than 600v (or 300V, for that matter) I've never seen mining cable.
Is the 70A C/B an FPE?
This is scary.
Posted By: sparky66wv Re: Dining Hall Feeder - 08/01/01 12:45 PM
SOW 2000V written right on the jacket...

Mining Cable = SOW
Posted By: nesparky Re: Dining Hall Feeder - 08/01/01 07:29 PM
thank god we don't see mining cable here
does AHJ or OSHA do any thing there?
Posted By: Tom Re: Dining Hall Feeder - 08/01/01 09:45 PM
NESPARKY,

To paraphrase a famous movie "AHJ? We don't need no stinking AHJ."

Once you get away from a few of the larger cities in the Mountain State, there is no AHJ and pretty much no inspection, except for the service and only if served by one particular power company.

OSHA? They're too busy rousting people with money to pay their fines.

Tom
Posted By: electure Re: Dining Hall Feeder - 08/01/01 11:47 PM
They really don't need a stinkin' AHJ.
. check out NEC 90-2(b)(2) !!
I don't think they're subject to OSHA either(could be wrong on that).
They're their own AHJ
Posted By: sparky66wv Re: Dining Hall Feeder - 08/02/01 04:42 AM
I failed to mention that the odd flair on the end of the entrance conduit is actually the remnants of an LB... The other half was lying on the ground below...

I like the fact that the Fryer/Grille and Range feeders are the same size as the mains!!!

No one (but me) has warned the festival promoters of the lack of ampacity, especially considering voltage drop....

It has apparently already burned up the cooler compressor motor... (browning out)...

And there is no damage waiver to any equipment used during the festival... It's a trap!
Posted By: sparky Re: Dining Hall Feeder - 08/05/01 11:47 AM
the Genny must be looking better huh?
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