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Posted By: electure Home Inspector at Ian's Place - 01/15/07 01:41 AM
from theelectrikid
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Here are pics of the 1956 Levittown Jubilee my family just purchased.This Real-estate inspector was no hit-and-run inspector. We were there a good 2 hours, and he checked every crevice of the house. I found out more electrical than he did, but the Township Electrical Inspector is coming soon to check that department.

Coat closet under the staircase, revealing the TV outlet being fed from the recept in the master bedroom. TV cable was added later
(and will also be replaced.)


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What the? This is the cord for the light in the attic above my head. I see a flying splice! Oh well, the previous owner was a
carpenter. More food for Del-Val Scrap!

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Cheater-plug on microwave. Supposedly gets plugged into only outlet besides behind fridge, on wall below that window. There's
also two 18-gauge extension cords sitting in that stand.
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A 1956 Levittown Kitchen, electrical and cabinet wise. No outlets, except behind the fridge and the one on the floor for the
microwave.

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Posted By: alan bergold Re: Home Inspector at Ian's Place - 01/15/07 03:12 AM
welcome to levittown i worked this area for 3 years can tell you alot of levitt secrets about this house .Ive seen alot worse things in a levitt be happy thats all you found.Maybe town of hempstead or the ahd inspector can tell you some more. Overall the houses were built good.. good luck..

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Posted By: trobb Re: Home Inspector at Ian's Place - 01/15/07 06:41 PM
What did you mean by "recept on the floor?"
Posted By: ShockMe77 Re: Home Inspector at Ian's Place - 01/15/07 07:08 PM
Levittown/ Hempstead is Long Island, New York.

I believe Levittown Jubilee is the model name for the home.

Looks like someone will be cutting-in some old work gems, a few new 20 AMP homeruns, and a few new GFCI protected receptacles in the new kitchen. [Linked Image]

Good luck, Ian!
Posted By: Luketrician Re: Home Inspector at Ian's Place - 01/15/07 10:52 PM
Ian beware of that ungrounded microwave!!

You probably already know, but I can tell ya from personal experience when I was 16 and touched the microwave, I recieved a nasty jolt. Back then, I wasn't sure how I got jolted but man it hurt. I do know that it had an 'adaptor' on it though. I was also wet to from being in the pool. Yeah I know, makes sense to me now why.
Posted By: Theelectrikid Re: Home Inspector at Ian's Place - 01/15/07 11:14 PM
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What did you mean by "recept on the floor?"

Whoops! [Linked Image] My mistake! I meant to say the recept. on the wall above the floor.

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Levittown/ Hempstead is Long Island, New York.

I believe Levittown Jubilee is the model name for the home.

Shock, wrong Levittown! [Linked Image] I'm in his PA Development, a 1955 Model 3 Jubilee.

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Looks like someone will be cutting-in some old work gems, a few new 20 AMP homeruns, and a few new GFCI protected receptacles in the new kitchen.

Good luck, Ian!

Hehe, down the road somewhere yes. As I was saying in the chat last Friday, the former HOs hired someone to install a GFCI in the kitchen. The guy ran what I think is 14/2 on a new 20amp circuit! That needs checked out. Yes, this kitchen will see some electrical work. It may be Wiremold, but, oh well. Thankfully there's a "crawlspace/attic" right above the outer wall that leads to the garage attic, right above the servuce panel.

Upstairs (mine!) is getting it too, as well as the bathrooms.
Thanks for the good luck!

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Ian beware of that ungrounded microwave!!

Luke, the outlet is old and shot, so it'll only hold a plug in the bottom half. And with the phone plugged into that half, that microwave ain't being plugged in anytime soon! Also, I found the first outlet of that circuit to be in the dining room, so Im thinking about putting a GFI there, and replacing the other kitchen recepts with new grounded ones, with the "No EGC" stickers affixed.

Also not related to these pictures, I have three dead (20volts!) outlets up here, and a switched one that reads 56volts with the swtich off. Ughh. Thank goodness it's just bike-riding distance to Ace Hardware. (And no, I don't believe in using 39ยข receptacles.)

Thanks guys,
Ian A.
Posted By: pauluk Re: Home Inspector at Ian's Place - 01/16/07 12:33 AM
If these pics show the worst of the electrical problems, then it doesn't look too bad. I've certainly seen far worse over here!
Posted By: alan bergold Re: Home Inspector at Ian's Place - 01/16/07 06:18 AM
Sorry you guys are right i did not recognize the (levitt jubilee) this seems to be somewhere else ,delaware maybe im from long island and levittovn just rang a bell . good luck anyway ian ALBI
Posted By: yaktx Re: Home Inspector at Ian's Place - 01/17/07 05:51 AM
Are you gonna keep the original cabinets?
Posted By: Theelectrikid Re: Home Inspector at Ian's Place - 01/18/07 04:32 AM
Heck yeah we're keeping those cabinets, that was one of the things that "bought" the house for my mother.

Ian A.
Posted By: Dnkldorf Re: Home Inspector at Ian's Place - 01/19/07 10:44 PM
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but the Township Electrical Inspector is coming soon to check that department.

Judging from your posts, and knowing some of the people down there, you'd be better off inspecting it yourself.

That isn't in Indian Creek is it?
Posted By: Theelectrikid Re: Home Inspector at Ian's Place - 01/19/07 11:18 PM
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Judging from your posts, and knowing some of the people down there, you'd be better off inspecting it yourself.

That isn't in Indian Creek is it?

He's been here and left already, back in December. He did miss a few things though. And I AM going through this place with a fine toothed comb, and some mysteries have already been unveiled.

Birch Valley actually. Indian Creek's down New Falls Road. (Home of the BIG Ranchers, Junior Jubilees and BIG Levittowners, and 3 burned houses.)


Ian A.

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Posted By: Dnkldorf Re: Home Inspector at Ian's Place - 01/20/07 12:10 AM
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and some mysteries have already been unveiled.

I bet there are more to come too....

Good luck with your project, keep us posted.
Posted By: pauluk Re: Home Inspector at Ian's Place - 01/21/07 01:20 PM
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Heck yeah we're keeping those cabinets, that was one of the things that "bought" the house for my mother.
I find that I often prefer the older style of fittings to the modern.

I've seen some of those "home makeover" shows where they rip out an old room and refurbish it, they're gushing over how wonderful and modern it looks, and I'm sitting there thinking that they've completely ruined the place and it looked much better before.
Posted By: Theelectrikid Re: Home Inspector at Ian's Place - 01/21/07 01:47 PM
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I find that I often prefer the older style of fittings to the modern.

I've seen some of those "home makeover" shows where they rip out an old room and refurbish it, they're gushing over how wonderful and modern it looks, and I'm sitting there thinking that they've completely ruined the place and it looked much better before.


We almost lost this house in a bidding war with a general contractor who has bought quite a few of these houses and destroyed them. The family (it was an estate sale) sold it to us knowing we wouldn't demolish it.

Ian A.
Posted By: Theelectrikid Re: Home Inspector at Ian's Place - 02/15/07 09:33 PM
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If these pics show the worst of the electrical problems, then it doesn't look too bad.

As I discovered today while replacing a broken wall-plate, these aren't the worst of the problems.

Ian A.

PS: Why is it that a broken wall plate keeping me from plugging the computer in, quickly turns into a $100 shopping list that will be put off forever? Heck, the problems I mentioned above (20volts) still haven't been fixed. Ughh.
It always seems like small problems snowball. About two years ago I had something like the broken wallplate, and have sence rewired most of my house. Just be careful & good luck.
Posted By: Theelectrikid Re: Home Inspector at Ian's Place - 07/04/07 04:32 AM
Hey guys I'm just posting an update for anyone that's interested. (Bill or mod, if I'm not allowed to do this delete it.)

4 switches have been replaced, 3 were double-lugged on the hots, 1 was just old (1955 Leviton-Made in USA!) and didn't work. I only have 2 more "carpenter" (handyman works better) specials to inspect/replace.

3 old-don't hold receptacles have been replaced, 2 with the appropriate ungrounded models, 1 with a GFCI.

Five switches and recepts have had their counter-clockwise wires fixed.

Oh, and today while replacing a light switch (which I forgot to mark off the three cables to where they go...) I wound up ripping down a chandalier to fix a hot-neutral reversal. That mess took a good two hours to find/troubleshoot, after which I relaxed with a medium pizza and 2 liter of Pepsi from Parkway Pizza. smile

Tomorrow's agenda, blank off an old, now unused fireplace switch while looking for more double-lugs.

After that? Going to the township to pull a permit for a new bedroom wall A/C, new ceiling fan, and a garage rewire!

Oh, and what I said earlier about 14/2 on a 20amp circuit, that is confirmed. IT will be fixed, eventually, it's only item #4001 on a 4000 item list. wink

That's it it's nap time,
Happy Independence Day to everyone in the U.S,
Ian A.
Posted By: pauluk Re: Home Inspector at Ian's Place - 07/05/07 01:29 PM
Updates are always welcome Ian. smile It's good to hear that bad things we've seen here are getting fixed.

Posted By: Theelectrikid Re: Home Inspector at Ian's Place - 01/18/08 12:00 AM
I just found and uploaded some more pics from our home inspection to the ECN photo site, and here they are.

Old 1-15 switch/receptacle combo.
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The downstairs 9X12 bedroom has four receptacles like this, and they can't even be removed because of that paneling!
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Cut seal on the meter.
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Also, the closet in the first pic (with the dangling RG-59 and asbestos floors) is slated for asbestos abatement because of that floor...

Ian A.
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