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Posted By: Bill Addiss What is the CEC and how does it work? - 11/02/00 11:34 PM
Could someone please supply a few details about the CEC to start things off?
Such as -

Who writes the code?

do all areas of the country use it?
are they required to?

What is the revision cycle? (how often is it modified)

Does everyone use the same revision?

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Posted By: ns Re: What is the CEC and how does it work? - 11/13/00 07:00 PM
Try: http://www.csa.ca/english/home/index.htm and search for CEC.
The CEC is managed by CSA and is written by volunteers (in 1998 there were over 200).
Posted By: Wrradd Re: What is the CEC and how does it work? - 12/04/00 06:52 AM
There doesn't seem to be much information available on the CEC (online at least) [Linked Image]
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Originally posted by Bill Addiss:
Could someone please supply a few details about the CEC to start things off?
Such as -

Who writes the code?

do all areas of the country use it?
are they required to?

What is the revision cycle? (how often is it modified)

Does everyone use the same revision?

Thank You in Advance [Linked Image]

The CEC is developed and published by the Candian Standards Association (CSA)Many committees have been set up and each deals with a portion of the code.
Most provinces use the code directly by passing a provincial resolution to accept it as the code for the province.
Others base their provincial code on the CEC. Ontario for example, uses the Ontario Electrical Code (based on the CEC) and adds it's own amendments at quarterly intervals.
The CEC is published every four years. Next publication will be in 2002.
Wm. Grenier
Wm,

Thank You for your response. I understand that there are 2 parts to the code, is that correct? And does one part contain information on equipment listings as per your NRTL like our UL books?

Bill
Posted By: Les Beros Re: What is the CEC and how does it work? - 02/27/01 02:52 AM
There are a few parts to the CSA Standard. The Part I is the Canadian Electrical Code (CEC) and the Part II is the manufacturers Standard for electrical products. Here in Saskatchewan we usually adopt the CEC about a year after if comes out. This allows us time to adopt any changes we want for the provincial amendments.
Les
Les,

Thanks for your reply. I find it interesting that electrical product information would accompany or seem to be included in your code. It seems like a natural thing that they would go together. I wonder how many of our Electricians own any UL Product Directories.

Bill
Weve also gone to the European system of labelling with our explosion-proof areas in the 1998 code book. Much nicer to deal with more plastic, intrinsically safe devices, less machined boxes, much lighter and hopefully in a few years much cheaper.
Canadian Sparky,

If you can fill us in a little on any other differences that your code has I'm sure that others will be interested. We (myself anyway) really know very little about such things.

If you have a chance please look at some of the photos in the violations areas and give us some comments on those.

Thanks for your comments!

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Bill
Les,

Are you a member of IAEI? I notice that you post over at their BB. I'm just curious.

Bill
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Originally posted by ElecTrainer:
The CEC is developed and published by the Candian Standards Association (CSA)Many committees have been set up and each deals with a portion of the code.
Most provinces use the code directly by passing a provincial resolution to accept it as the code for the province.
Others base their provincial code on the CEC. Ontario for example, uses the Ontario Electrical Code (based on the CEC) and adds it's own amendments at quarterly intervals.
The CEC is published every four years. Next publication will be in 2002.
Wm. Grenier
The CE Code, Part I, is a voluntary Code for adoption and enforcement by the electrical inspection authorities of each Province, Territory, or City.* It is divided into 41 Sections. Sections 0, 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 16, and 26 are considered to be “general” sections in that they provide the Rules generally applicable to all installations. The remaining sections are “supplementary” or “amendatory” to these general Rules in the Code. That is, these Rules are additional to the Rules in the general sections of the Code and in some cases may modify the general Rules of the Code. “Supplementary to or amendatory of” is the term used in the Scope of these sections to clearly indicate that the Rules following cover the specific subject matter of that section.
Code Rules are written in the positive sense, with the word “shall” indicating a mandatory requirement.
To fully understand how to use the Code, you need a good knowledge of the definitions in Section 0 and the general Rules of Section 2. The CE Code is adopted across Canada and in certain areas, to meet local conditions, amendments or additional requirements may be introduced. You should therefore determine if any special requirements exist before making any electrical installations.
Appendices A, B, D, E, F, G, and H provide general information on the Code and do not include any amendatory requirements. Appendix C outlines the organization of the Committee on CE Code, Part I, and gives the Rules of Procedure. Annex J18 applies to locations in which electrical equipment and wiring is subject to the conditions indicated.

The Canadian Electrical Code is a publication issued by CSA in several parts. Among these are Part I, which establishes safety standards for the installation and maintenance of electrical equipment, and Part II, which consists of safety standards governing the construction, testing, and marking of electrical equipment.
Part II Standards are prepared by Subcommittees, which operate under the jurisdiction of Technical Committees, which in turn are responsible to the Standards Steering Committee on Canadian Electrical Code, Part II. In preparing these Standards, the views of all interested organizations are taken into account; regulatory authorities, industry, and general interests.

Tony Moscioni
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Part II, which consists of safety standards governing the construction, testing, and marking of electrical equipment.
Does this mean that Part 2 really applies to manufacturers and Testing labs? (NRTLs) I had thought origonally that it consisted of information contained in the listings of Electrical products and equipment, like our UL white book. I thought that was a pretty good idea to have that info readily available.

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Bill
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