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Posted By: Joe Tedesco Does this identification look OK? - 06/22/05 10:07 PM
Does this identification look OK?

[Linked Image from nachi.org]
Posted By: BEAMEUP Re: Does this identification look OK? - 06/22/05 10:40 PM
O.K. I'll be the fist one to bite, It looks good to me. Am I missing something?
Posted By: Ryan_J Re: Does this identification look OK? - 06/22/05 11:24 PM
It looks like everything in 240.83 has been satisfied.
Posted By: Ryan_J Re: Does this identification look OK? - 06/22/05 11:26 PM
But what about 240.81?
Posted By: Scott35 Re: Does this identification look OK? - 06/22/05 11:50 PM
Looks like a 2 Pole frame, with no handle tie across the reset handles.

If this is a 2 Pole unit, then the following would be identification issues:

<OL TYPE=1>

[*] Listed as a 1 Pole unit on both Poles of the unit,


[*] No common trip indication.
</OL>

Scott35
Posted By: e57 Re: Does this identification look OK? - 06/23/05 12:29 AM
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Looks OK to me, although Ryan brings up a good point, on 240.81
Posted By: Joe Tedesco Re: Does this identification look OK? - 06/23/05 01:02 AM
I cropped the image to get a close up and here is the rest of the story.

Note: UL does not approve they list or label and the CSA I believe does the same.
http://www.nachi.org/bbsystem/usrimages/1/100_03031.JPG
http://www.nachi.org/bbsystem/usrimages/1/100_03041.JPG
Posted By: John Crighton Re: Does this identification look OK? - 06/23/05 05:22 PM
So you're saying that the problem isn't in the identification at all, but in the text that was added to the photo?
Posted By: Joe Tedesco Re: Does this identification look OK? - 06/23/05 05:38 PM
Yup!
Posted By: Ryan_J Re: Does this identification look OK? - 06/24/05 01:40 AM
I figured you were talking about code compliance with the breaker itself, not the added text.
Posted By: George Re: Does this identification look OK? - 06/25/05 02:26 PM
I believe that the word "approval" is properly used.

The breakers have been tested with "favorable regard".
Posted By: Ryan_J Re: Does this identification look OK? - 06/25/05 03:06 PM
See the article 100 definition.
Posted By: Larry Fine Re: Does this identification look OK? - 06/27/05 04:21 AM
I see a couple of issues in the larger images:

White wire on top-right breaker w/o being re-colored.

It looks like that breaker is a Thomas & Betts.

What about the re-used breaker on the left?

Back-fed breaker as nain w/o hold-down hardware.

Two aluminum conductors in one top-right terminal. (Anti-ox?)
Posted By: Paul O'Connell Re: Does this identification look OK? - 08/06/05 05:01 PM
Actually they look like forgeries. If so the labeling is also forged and probably have never been tested for anything.
Posted By: foestauf Re: Does this identification look OK? - 08/09/05 04:27 PM
Is that the transformer for the doorbell that is hooked directly onto the box?
Posted By: Ryan_J Re: Does this identification look OK? - 08/09/05 05:18 PM
Quote
Is that the transformer for the doorbell that is hooked directly onto the box?

Yes, but that is not a violation.
Posted By: foestauf Re: Does this identification look OK? - 08/09/05 08:33 PM
Heh. Didn't think it was being that the panel is a j-box but hehe. Man if I did that I would never hear the end of it.
Posted By: hbiss Re: Does this identification look OK? - 08/09/05 08:42 PM
Hmmm, looks like the black from the doorbell transformer is together with the branch circuit on that last breaker. Two wires on the same lug.

-Hal
Posted By: sandsnow Re: Does this identification look OK? - 08/11/05 10:47 PM
Hey Ryan
Look real close. You can barely see it. Reference the other c/b's in the larger photo. Maybe the lighting makes it hard to see.

They looked good to me at first until I looked up 240.81
Posted By: Larry Fine Re: Does this identification look OK? - 08/13/05 06:43 PM
Sandy, if you look carefully, it appears someone (Joe?) has covered the words "on" and "off" with little rectangles of electrical tape.

I know for a fact that the Siemens and Murray breakers that use these cases have the words molded into the plastic; look next to the CSA.

Right, Joe?
Posted By: HotLine1 Re: Does this identification look OK? - 08/13/05 11:39 PM
Larry: ya beat me to it; tape is hiding something for sure. Saw this last night, but never got to write.

John
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