What time frame is 'temporary' , other than 305-3 , if something is listed for 'temporary use'?

66,

We have a saying here at work. "The only thing permanent is temporary." lol.

(Psst... Hey Mike... I'm '66... that's Steve...)

-Virgil

I am so confused

We've got probably another 5 sparky (maybe more) names here. If they all decided to post at the same time sheeesh!

Mike, don't feel bad, Joe T. is calling me Bob

Bill

Perhaps you can program a moratorium on using spark in a username. It is too obvious for a forum like this.
And perhaps we can get people to stop naming their children William.

just don't call me late for din-din

anywho...
as far as i see it, temporary is an undefined term NEC wise. So items listed for temp use could be installed and run anywhere from minutes to years.

I think this is a really twisted disclaimer that no one will pay attention to, but would be pointed out after problems occur.

That's why I'm electure, a name given to me by the guys during the Presidential race.
Don't want the other Scott from Anaheim gettin' trashed over my ravings.
We've had temporary employees that haven't lasted a day. I've seen temporary wiring that the companies have left in for years.
?????

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The owner of the resort with the dining hall feeder said that it was a temporary too...

But it's been there for five years or more...

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Sparky and Sparky66wv,

Sorry about the gaffe. I had a temporary (my previous post doesn't apply in this case)memory lapse. I'll pay very close attention to names from now on!

Just look around and you'll see. The answer is obvious--
About 100 years!

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I thought Temporary was defined as 90 days in the NEC (It's in my truck again, and yet again I'm feeling lazy...)? Somewhere near 305 or??

Or am I confusing it with AP's customer requirements "Green Book"...? (It's in the truck too...)

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Just to toss in something else ..

We had a UL rep do a presentation on GFCIs' awhile back and according to their (or his?) views any cord We use for performing our work is considered Temporary and the area (Living Rm, Dining Rm, whatever) is considered a Construction site while we are there. What this means is that We have to have, or provide, GFCI protection for our cords.


Bill

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305 is for temp wiring, this is an article mostly aimed at us, and our work practices.

but take a walk thru any hardware store, we see adapters, cords, lighting etc marketed with little to no info as to 'temporary'. These are the items that cause trouble for us in the field.

Do you see the double standard here?

There is a reason that the word "customer" comes from the root "cuss".
If I get any indication that the customer is too clever for his own good, I'll plan for worst case. This might mean I'm not the cheapest, but these are sales you don't want to try too hard for anyway.