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Posted By: HotLine1 2011 NEC News for NJ - 06/03/12 03:41 PM
2011 NEC, with some amendments has been adopted as of 5/7/12.

Oddly, the DCA site has NO mention of the usual 'grace period'.

As of last week, I'm awaiting a response regarding the effective date.
Posted By: gfretwell Re: 2011 NEC News for NJ - 06/04/12 02:16 AM
I was at a code change class a few weeks ago and they told us this was just Gee whiz info since we would not see the 2011 until the 2014 was out. They would like to just skip to the 14 but the legislative process will not let them.
They have to debate the new code until it is obsolete. Ain't government great wink
Posted By: HotLine1 Re: 2011 NEC News for NJ - 06/04/12 01:28 PM
NJ political machine moves slowly...

We did CEUs on 2011 for lic. renewals since the '11 was in print. We use the '05 for rehab, the '08 for 'new work', now the '11; and soon enough the '14 for CEUs again.

I still have to digest the amendments, & get back to speed on the '11!
Posted By: gfretwell Re: 2011 NEC News for NJ - 06/04/12 05:16 PM
Our problem is the electrical code is adopted along with the ICC based Florida building code and that is 2 years behind NFPA so, by the time they have chewed on the ICC codes for most of a year and made it our own we are well into the next NEC cycle.

(the 2010 building code using the 2008 NEC was adopted just about the time the 2011 NEC was out)
Posted By: HotLine1 Re: 2011 NEC News for NJ - 06/04/12 06:49 PM
Harold:
Where are you??

Posted By: HotLine1 Re: 2011 NEC News for NJ - 06/05/12 03:14 PM
Verbal from DCA that the 6 month 'grace period' is active, even though they did not write it within the respective adopted codes listing.

Historicly, an 'effective date' (or drop dead date) is listed with the adopted date indicating the grace period.

Posted By: harold endean Re: 2011 NEC News for NJ - 08/06/12 01:26 PM
John,

I am right here. We have been very busy at work and I just forget every now and then to sign on. As for the grace period. I thought that we are suppose to enforce the newest code, UNLESS the contractor states on his permit that he wants to use the last code. The grace period is only good for 6 months. I usually check around this website for any news.

http://www.state.nj.us/dca/divisions/codes/codreg/index.html#5

Posted By: HotLine1 Re: 2011 NEC News for NJ - 08/06/12 06:00 PM
Harold:
Yes, you are 100% correct. '11 is in effect now UNLESS the job comes in marked "2008 NEC" until 11/07/2012.

I've been busy also.
Posted By: gfretwell Re: 2011 NEC News for NJ - 08/06/12 07:31 PM
Busy is good. Are you adding staff yet?

Things seem to be turning around here. One of the big developers is starting 500 new houses this year.
Posted By: HotLine1 Re: 2011 NEC News for NJ - 08/07/12 12:11 AM
To clear up a plumbing backlog of inspections Twp has a PT guy 3-6PM, and a FT multi-license (B/E/P).

Seems to be helping.

We have no space for any resi except a few SFD (customs); two new warehouse/comm @ 500+KSFt, & a lot of reno.
Posted By: gfretwell Re: 2011 NEC News for NJ - 08/07/12 02:12 AM
There is the initial bidding going out here for a massive hotel remodel, actually 3 big hotels and they have agreed that all 3 hotels will close at the same time (2 months next year).
This is going to be a kamikaze 24/7 operation, stacking trades and going as fast as they can go.
I expect guys will be parachuting in from all over the country for this one.
I am not sure how they will handle inspections at that pace and I expect there may be a contract opportunity. If the price is right, I will look at some wire under the lights at 2AM wink
Posted By: HotLine1 Re: 2011 NEC News for NJ - 08/08/12 12:08 AM
Greg:
We had a 14 story Sheraton renovation last year just like that. 24/7, rush. Most of the rooms/suites was replace lighting & added lighting, device replacement and new room HVAC units, Pain was access with freight elevator being 'really busy' and the 6 pack of passenger elevators undergoing renovation.

All in all, the OT was OK.
Posted By: harold endean Re: 2011 NEC News for NJ - 09/10/12 01:52 PM
In one town I work in, there is a nursing home being built. I believe it will be 4 stories tall with about 15 to 20 apt. per floor. They are working at a very fast pace. They are bringing pre-made walls and stacking them up one after the other. They claim it is cheaper and faster to build the walls off site and truck them to the job. This same nursing home just built a brand new rehab center 4 stories tall with healing garden, therapy rooms, pools etc. just about 5 years ago.
Posted By: gfretwell Re: 2011 NEC News for NJ - 09/10/12 04:11 PM
Is this Y-tong concrete? We did a juvenile center that way. They were almost done when the fire marshal suddenly decided the Y-tong might not have the right fire rating.
It got pretty ugly. I had finished my finals so I was only watching the show on TV. They never reopened the electrical permit so I assume they decided it was OK after all.
Posted By: harold endean Re: 2011 NEC News for NJ - 09/14/12 02:53 PM
Greg,

No it is just plain old metal studs and that new blue drywall that they use on the outside of buildinings.
Posted By: gfretwell Re: 2011 NEC News for NJ - 09/15/12 12:36 AM
How are they doing the wiring? Fishing it in?, Accessible J boxes?
Posted By: harold endean Re: 2011 NEC News for NJ - 09/17/12 01:27 PM
Greg,


Sorry, (as usual, I didn't make myself clear) they are leaving one side open and pulling the wire through like normal. MC and some hospital grade wiring. There are the main feeders in pipe and such.
Posted By: gfretwell Re: 2011 NEC News for NJ - 09/17/12 05:11 PM
It sounds like an interesting way to do things. Do you suspect the fabrication shop may be non-union and the job site is union ?
Posted By: harold endean Re: 2011 NEC News for NJ - 09/23/12 04:43 PM
Oh, I am sure that the fabrication shop is non union. However the guys on the job are also non union.
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