An existing house, no receptacles in the back of the house, an above ground pool is being installed. The Contractor runs a 20amp circuit to a timer, then to a GFCI recpticale with a bubble cover, then to the motor receptacle.
The Inspector trips the recepticale agianst the house and the motor stops. A red-tag is placed on the window stating that you need one branch circuit for the receptacle at the pool and one branch circuit for the receptacle for the 10-20' rule.
What do you think?

Joe;
Welcome to another Jersey Guy

OK, Pool requires a dedicated circuit.
General purpose outlet 10-20'
AG's require twistlock.
Most installs are faceless GFI, or GFI CB; bubble mandatory.
Please note that the key wording is "General Purpose" receptacle within 10-20' zone; it does not have to be dedicated.

This should not fall under the infamous 'Rehab'

John

PS: Which Washington???

[This message has been edited by HotLine1 (edited 06-27-2006).]

A pool pump or light needs a special circuit.It ends up being wire in pipe with a green wire ground but it never says dedicated. My general use receptacle is on the wet niche light circuit. I pulled 2 green wires so the light one was unspliced.

Let's start with - is this a storable pool? Is the pump Listed for use with a storable pool? Sounds like it is a storable pool since there is no mention of bonding. If it's a pump Listed for a storable pool the cord length will put it beyond the 10' and you will be using a straight blade cap and receptacle. 680.7

Unless the manufacturer's spec out a dedicated/separate circuit you could use 210.23 and put the general purpose receptacle on the same circuit as the pump. Do the math

George, the "timer" and fact that there is an inspector there in the first place seems to indicate this is a permanent installation.
Storables are the ones you blow up and the equipment is typically just sitting there on the ground, connected with hoses or hanging on the pool wall.
These things have 25' cords by listing.
The code deals with them as simple portable equipment like an electric drill or weed whacker. Any GFCI outlet will do. The safety is built in the "storable pool pump/light" listing. (double insulated and such)
I recently got into this storable stuff a bit and it is a different breed of cat from "permanent" pool stuff. The call is as easy as simply reading the pump label and the labels on the pool. The equipment is mutually exclusive. You can't use a permanent pump on a storable and vice versa.
I suppose you could install a "storable pool" permanently with permanent equipment, by meeting the 680 Part II rules, but it can't go the other way.

Hotline1, I am from Washington the is on the intersection of Rte 31 & Rte 57.
The question is how many branch circuits do I need?
Remember, there is no existing receptacle, so one needs to be installed. This is the first time I triped a required 10-20' receptalce and the motor stopped. I interpt the code Article 680.22 as needing two branch circuits.

Joe, I don't see this as a violation of 680.22 but it probably does violate 210.23(A)(2).
That has nothing to do with the pool, only the size of the motor, if >10a (3/4hp would be closer to 11)
680.22 is silent about how many outlets can be on the pump circuit.

Joe:

"Read" General Purpose Receptacle, 10-20'
It can be from any source. Based on what I said above and this....above grd pool, 120 volt, one branch circuit.

John

John,

Thanks for the replay. The motor at the pool is 1.5hp. If we go to Table 430.248 we find that this motor is calculated at 20 amps. That is why I enforce that rule that no other circuts be on it. One of these days I am going to bring my amp probe and start a chart on motore draw.

Have a great holiday. PS The circuit was changed.

Joe:
Hmmmmm.
Not for nothing, but....20 amp FLC on 20 amp (#12) circuit. I hope its a 20 amp rated GFCI Device

Also, FYI, what's the HP rating of the GFI device??

John

[This message has been edited by HotLine1 (edited 06-29-2006).]

Inspector made a good call. #12 awg wire is good for 25a. in this application and 430.22 would ask for 125% of Table 430.148 which turns out to be 25a. No room to add any more load. See 430.24 The namplate on the motor will give you the actual draw of the motor once it gets running. As for HP rating of the breaker, I would be surprized if this would be a problem. Have to check with the manufacturer for that info.

How did all you get by 210.23(A)(1)?
Is the "branch circuit ampere rating" 25 because of the wire or 20 because of the receptacle? Is it a really NEMA 5-20? GFCI rated 20? Will a 20a breaker reliably start that motor?
This 1.5HP (20FLA) motor could be troubling, cord and plug connected, if it wasn't 240v.

Of course if that "1.5HP" is just "puffing" and it is really a 15-16a motor ...
...nevermind.

The branch circuit ampere rating directly correspond to the rating of the OCPD according to T210.24. So 210.23(1) is violated with a 20 amp breaker.

I know they are not common, but what about 25 amp OCPD's? or 35? or 45? I guess there are no rules for these. So the answer is to get a 25A breaker, use #12's and a 20A single receptacle with GFCI protection.

This install also requires a separate controller which could be a 25A ac only general-use snap switch. 430.83(C)(2)

and is a general-use snap switch an 'air-break switch'? If so, then you do not need a separate disconnect for the controller.--430.111

What was the question again...?