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Posted By: Admin More Old Splicing Techniques - 04/02/03 02:49 AM
Here's some more pictures for our (upcoming) Nostalgic Area:
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- Thanks to Joe Goble, - mountainman

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Posted By: MinElectrcn Re: More Old Splicing Techniques - 04/02/03 03:45 AM
WOW! I CANT TELL IF THEY ARE SPLICING WIRE OR GETTING THEIR FISHING POLES READY. QUITE SOME CHANGE FROM THEN TILL NOW!
Posted By: ThinkGood Re: More Old Splicing Techniques - 04/02/03 05:18 AM
Thanks for the scans--these are great. A change, indeed, from today's crimp-it, microwave-it, e-mail-it, overnight-mail-it, etc.
Posted By: Electricmanscott Re: More Old Splicing Techniques - 04/02/03 11:30 AM
I'll never understand why people call it "The good old days"!
Posted By: SvenNYC Re: More Old Splicing Techniques - 04/02/03 02:52 PM
The Western Union splice technique will come in handy next time I have to splice a broken telephone wire in my house!!! [Linked Image]

I'd use heatshrink to cover it though....instead of tape.
Posted By: pauluk Re: More Old Splicing Techniques - 04/02/03 04:09 PM
I've actually used quite a few of these splices myself in telecoms/electronics work!

The "Western Union" splice was also commonly found in the U.K. in GPO Telephone manuals.
Posted By: txsparky Re: More Old Splicing Techniques - 04/02/03 07:13 PM
Sure glad that that is a past practice [Linked Image] I am very grateful to the feller(s) that invented wire nuts and kirneya!!
Posted By: SvenNYC Re: More Old Splicing Techniques - 04/02/03 08:14 PM
Don,

What is "kirneya?"

Anyone know when wire-nuts started being used? I'm assuming 1930s or 1940s?
Posted By: Bjarney Re: More Old Splicing Techniques - 04/02/03 10:03 PM
Sven, you may be referring to an electrical connector with the brand name of "Kearney" http://www.cooperpower.com/AboutUs/history.asp They are now a division of Cooper Power...one of the big boys.
Posted By: mamills Re: More Old Splicing Techniques - 04/02/03 10:17 PM
Bjarney:
Are Kearney's the same thing as "Split Bolt" connectors?

Mike (mamills)
Posted By: Bjarney Re: More Old Splicing Techniques - 04/02/03 10:50 PM
Mike -- I think so.
Posted By: ThinkGood Re: More Old Splicing Techniques - 04/02/03 11:41 PM
Sven:
Kirneya is caused by lifting a very heavy box of Kearneys.
Posted By: txsparky Re: More Old Splicing Techniques - 04/03/03 04:41 AM
HEY ! R yall maken funn uv mi spellin ? [Linked Image]

O.K. Split bolts it is !

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Posted By: Bjarney Re: More Old Splicing Techniques - 04/03/03 05:28 PM
Note that figures 9, 10, 11 “sleeve method” look like they may have been a predecessor to hydraulic-compressed splices.
Posted By: Trumpy Re: More Old Splicing Techniques - 04/12/03 02:16 AM
Guys,
To a certain extent, we still use some of these tying techniques, although really only
for attaching lines to Insulators on poles or at service entries.
Crimp sleeves and split-bolts have done away
with most of the older jointing methods.
Posted By: GEC-1 Re: More Old Splicing Techniques - 04/29/03 02:34 AM
Guys, you have no idea of the "old school" methods of wiring. I have an American Electricians Handbook dated 1913! I also have a Hawkins Electrical guide that is dated 1927; and last but not least, I have a Practical Electrical wiring book that is dated 1947. You should see some of the methods that are explained in these books. All three books are in excelent condition. Signs with chasing lights had a drum and electric motor that turned the drum. The drum had "tits" like you would see on a music box and as the drum turned, the tits would make the limit switches turning on the lights in sequence. Wow, we have come a long way!
Posted By: txsparky Re: More Old Splicing Techniques - 04/29/03 03:33 AM
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You should see some of the methods that are explained in these books

Would like to see some of those pics if you could scan and post.
Posted By: Bill Addiss Re: More Old Splicing Techniques - 04/29/03 04:27 AM
I agree!

Send them to:

Photos@Electrical-Contractor.net
Posted By: SvenNYC Re: More Old Splicing Techniques - 04/29/03 03:26 PM
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Signs with chasing lights had a drum and electric motor that turned the drum.

So then that _IS_ how they work?!?!

When I was a kid I'd stand under the metal awnings of some grocery stores with chasing lights around the rim and I'd hear a constant mechanical whir-whirr clank clank in rythm with the lights.

I always thought it would be something similar to what you described [Linked Image]

Are these devices still made or have they been replaced by some sort of solid-state thing?
Posted By: classicsat Re: More Old Splicing Techniques - 04/29/03 03:57 PM
Directly for sign chasing, I doudbt it,
although the old (1987) school bus sitting
in the yard for storage, has a motor/contactor thing for the blinking lights as a schoolbus has.

To date still, the same sort of technology is used in the timers for appliances.

Of note, in high school, the shop teacher had
a little sign board with such a motor, and
the students got to dismantle the old scoreboard, which had appliance timer like motors/contacts for the timers and such
that are on a scoreboard .
Posted By: GEC-1 Re: More Old Splicing Techniques - 05/02/03 01:26 AM
Ok guys, I'll try to get some of the pictures in the books scanned. It there anything you want me to look up and scan? Just post a message and I'll do what I can. See ya'll later!
Posted By: Bill Addiss Re: More Old Splicing Techniques - 05/02/03 01:59 AM
GEC-1,

SWIMMING POOLS would be interesting topic I think.

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