The place down the road from where I work, I wired for high-bay lights and various other things a few years back, suffered it's first workplace fatality today.
Apparently, from what one of the supervisors was saying, they needed to replace one of the Metal-Halide lamps because it was nearing the end of it's life.
When I wired and installed all of them fittings, I told the Boss there that he was to call the company I used to work for and get us to replace them.
To that I was told "Nah, She'll be right, we have a forklift here", I told them to at least use an approved cage if they were going to replace any of the lamps or work at hieght off of a forklift.
Now, today, from what I'm told they had the now deceased guy up on a wooden pallet on the forklift and the pallet broke from underneath him, sending him onto a concrete floor, he died (what I would imagine would be) a slow and painful death falling 5 metres (15ft),
breaking his pelvis, breaking 6 ribs and puncturing a lung and a skull fracture.
When is it that idiots are going to learn that forklifts are not designed to lift people (especially on wooden pallets)?.
This young (19y/o) guy had been on the job about 3 months and was asked to change a light-bulb.
You'd never get me upon the forks of a forklift(cage or no cage) , considering that you can never trust the driver, but that is why they make things like scissor-lifts and cherry-pickers.
Some companies are just too short-sighted in the things they do.
A bit of money spent could have saved this guys life.
Imagine dying like that.
Someone needs a boot where it fits.

"Denial" is not the name of a river in Egypt.

The use of pallets, or even bare forks, for lifting people is all too routine. So are the accidents. And the fatalities.

You try to get these firms to buy a cage, or even make a cage, and they look at you as if you're the village idiot. Oh, no, we do it this way all the time.... and reports of local accidents are completely ignored.

Heck, I've received strange looks for spreading the forks.... and you ought to see the ones I get when I attach the cage with a chain!

The only bright spot is my experience where I had them make a cage. At the time, they thought I was being fussy, and they decided to humor me.
The first thing they liked was that my work went much quicker. Since then, they've grown to love the cage, and have found all sorts of uses for it. Work that previously took hours, when done from ladders, is now done in minutes.

Working from a forklift isn't my first choice; and, as you mentioned, the driver is a critical part of the job. I have actually used lifts that had a remote set of controls, that would let you operate the forks from the basket.

My dad died in a forklift accident in 1970. The idiots that let this young fella do this should be strung up. My heart goes out to the family and this company should be fined for lettin a worker even attempt this kind of work while on a forklift with a pallet.

Oddly enough folks,
Over here in NZ, the crazy thing about fork-lifts, is the fact that OSH actually administrates and trains those that operate forklifts.
When I went for my fork-lift licence a few years back there was actually no mention of lifting people up on the forks or any other medium.
You don't even have to hold a current drivers licence here to be able to operate a fork-lift (unless you drive it on a public road).
Personally, as a fork-lift operator, I'd NEVER lift a person up on anything with a fork-lift, the risk is just too great if something goes wrong and as I said above, there are better machines designed for this sole purpose, for things like this.

Mike here in the US using fork lifts to lift personal is fairly common and is OK with OSHA with a properly designed and used cage.

This applies to standard straight mast forklifts.

All terrain telescoping forklifts (Lulls) are not to be used as personal lifts with or without the cage.

I have been carted around on a fork lift quite a bit, anyone that drives the machine on a regular basis can usually drive it well enough to keep it smooth.

I'll tell you this, I liked being in a cage on a forklift better than hanging from a cage on a crane.

I am really sorry this person was killed, there is no excuse for standing on a pallet and getting driven around.

BTW here in the US a professionally made cage can be had for less than $400.00

Here is a picture of a factory-made forklift work platform:
http://www.globalindustrial.com/images/picgroup/397.jpg

Actually, you are allowed to use a man platform on a telescopic lift. It just has to be approved for that use.

The lift we use has an attachment to allow for operator control override.

However, the operator is much more important when using one of these lifts. There are pecious few here that I will trust to lift me on ours.

I thought there were additional certifications for any machine that lifted people beyond the basket itself. That could have just been a US government rule. I know they told us a Bobcat wasn't "man rated" no matter what we put on the bucket hooks.

That certainly may be true.

We rent telescopic material handlers like this one...



...quite often and all them specifically state not to be used as a personal lift.

It may just be the policy of the rental company we use.

I can not imagine riding in one of these stretched out while it is in motion, way to bumpy

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Bob,
Personally I have used a man-cage on the end of a crane hook before today and will continue to.
Crane operators are very clued-up people unlike some of the labourers that drive fork-lifts here.
How many fork-lift drivers can you name that recognise common hand signals?.
All crane operators here are required to know hand signals, as are people working near a crane.
Don't forget your hard-hat.

I've done the crane thing as well and it was scary. I'd rather have full control myself. I agree with Trumpy, a crane operator is a much better idea than a forklift. Do you need training to operate a forklift? We do - although I've never taken it.

Our local equipment rental outfits are like Bob's, although some used to rent approved cages / baskets for their lifts, they have stopped doing so.


Roger

Mike I am not sure I follow you here.

Your comparing a laborer who occasionally uses a fork lift to a trained operator.

Here a fork lift operator will often spend their entire work day behind the wheel,

Of course crane operators have more training than forklift operators.

But I am not expecting a forklift operator to operate a crane. I am expecting a forklift operator to operate a fork lift.

It has been my experience once a person has spent weeks, months...maybe years pulling and placing pallets from trucks and shelves that they have mastered the skills to put me in the air.

What will worry me is when one of the maintenance mechanics in the plant is chosen to drive me around. Usually the maintenance man knows how to run the machine but is not smooth with it as they don't spend 40 hours a week behind the wheel.

So we are clear this is the type of machine I mean.




Most?

The signals you would use controlling a fork lift are pretty basic. No winches or rotation etc.


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OK Bob,
I concede, yes, in no way does operating a forklift, compare with a crane.
However, it is up to the operator of either machine as to what is carried with it.
Oh yeah, not a worry there mate!.
I uesd to have a wall-chart at work that gave all the common signs and hand gestures used for both cranes and forklifts, one of the night-shift people pinched it!.

In new news about the disaster that I call a workplace.
When I had a day off last weekend, I'm told by one of the printers, that the following happened, although it was never recorded in the accident register, nor was I told that an off-site electrician had been bought in:
There are a few cable trays in this place, run horizontally and they carry cables and Socket Outlets.
Some of the outlets are supplied via a curly cord down to the machinery below.
A fork-lift caught one of the cords and damn near tore the whole cable tray down.
Work got an electrician in (why I was not rang, is beyond me, because this comes out of my maintenance budget).
Anyway, the head printer there had this guy up in what we call a ULD, which is a steel cage, up on the end of the forklift, so I am told the guy moved to one side and the ULD tipped right over damaging a rolling machine.
That fella was bloody lucky, escaping with only a large gash on his arm.
At no time was there any lock-out, tag-out procedure.
When is this sort of thing going to stop?, If that guy had have been up in the air at the time, we would be looking at spinal injuries.
Your thoughts?.

Leave that job now?

You've got that right Dnk,
I just want to run away as quick as I can, after hearing that little story.
Week and a few days to go.

to use a forklift as a man lift you must
A) have manufactures approval
B) have remote in basket controls

Most do not follow these simple rules and as shown above, pay with a life

Bkey do you have a reference for those requirements as I do not believe that to be the case here in the USA.

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Bkey I did some checking at OSHA and found that the rules are vague.

I found this in an OSHA standard interpretation.


IMO I have never used a forklift cage as a high lift order picker but boy is that open for interpretation.

Oddly enough Bob,
I was talking to an OSH inspector yesterday on an unrelated matter and I asked him about this issue.
Consequentialy (sp?) I have a pic of what OSH here calls an approved man (person?)-cage for working off of a forklift.



I don't like the look of the thing.
To put it bluntly Bob, to think that OSH here even condones employees working off of the end of a forklift, no matter how high or where-ever, worries me.
They must have a LOT of faith in the people they train as Forklift operators on their 8 hour courses.

Bob, I guess OSHA 1926.602 is what they were talking about with that Bobcat thing I had up thread a ways. They just called it not "man rated". My wife says they can't pick people up with a lull either.
Thanks for finding something that makes sense about this. Now I am going to have to start looking at man lifts and bucket trucks to satisfy my curiosity.

BTW I was looking at your note with the blue lull in it and saw the "ride" comment.
They are not even supposed to move the load around unless the boom is retracted. You are supposed to position the machine and then extend the boom.
From my Bobcat experience I can tell you, moving a load around with the bucket up too high can make it pretty squirrelly.

My Bobcat operating is a roadrunner cartoon anyway