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Posted By: ehill QO All-In-One? - 08/10/06 04:15 PM
In looking in the SquareD catalog... 200A combo, 30/40, semi-flush, ring... All I'm finding is Homeline. There's no QO like this anymore?

Eric
Posted By: trobb Re: QO All-In-One? - 08/10/06 07:15 PM
QO13040M200_ perhaps?
Posted By: ehill Re: QO All-In-One? - 08/10/06 08:03 PM
QO13040M200 is an indoor load center... I'm looking for an outdoor combo.

Something like SC3040M200F. But, that's a Homeline model, according to the catalog.
Posted By: trobb Re: QO All-In-One? - 08/10/06 08:22 PM
Upon further investgation, all they have for combo's in QO are meter-mains, not all-in-ones. Meter-Mains, Squared D

[This message has been edited by trobb (edited 08-10-2006).]
Posted By: electure Re: QO All-In-One? - 08/10/06 11:07 PM
Square D discontinued the all-in-one QO resi services [Linked Image] It's Sq D Homeline or go to another brand.
Even the QO load centers I've seen recently are plastic junk. The place that the breaker snaps onto (opposite the bus stab) used to be steel, now it's plastic [Linked Image]
Posted By: ehill Re: QO All-In-One? - 08/11/06 12:03 AM
A Cutler-Hammer CH series, maybe?
Posted By: NORCAL Re: QO All-In-One? - 08/11/06 12:21 AM
If you want "Zinsco Quality"* go SQ D, if you want good quality use a Cutler-Hammer type CH.

* I might raise a few hackles w/ that statement but SQ D and others have built their panels so cheaply as to deserve that comment, QO breakers are a fine product, but a chain is as strong as its weakest link.
Posted By: JBD Re: QO All-In-One? - 08/11/06 01:33 PM
Square D switched to the "nylon" interior about 20 years ago.
Posted By: DougW Re: QO All-In-One? - 08/11/06 09:45 PM
Seimens, Baby! [Linked Image]
Posted By: electure Re: QO All-In-One? - 08/11/06 11:55 PM
Wow, JBD.

I guess I really do live under a rock.
I just recently started coming into contact with loadcenters again, after a long time of bolt in panelboards.

I'm pretty disgusted.
Posted By: NORCAL Re: QO All-In-One? - 08/12/06 05:57 AM
The plastic interiors started when Gould Inc. intoduced the I-T-E EQ III loadcenter about 1979,but I do have to admit the split neutral in those panels was a nice upgrade.
Posted By: ehill Re: QO All-In-One? - 08/12/06 06:51 PM
A Seimens 24/42 or 24/48 is going to be cramped with all the load coming from the top and the breakers on the right.

I think I'd prefer a CH with a split neutral.

Eric
Posted By: mxslick Re: QO All-In-One? - 08/12/06 06:53 PM
All the new panels are junk!! [Linked Image]

They're starting to make Zinsco look good!!

Just stirring the pot.... [Linked Image]
Posted By: iwire Re: QO All-In-One? - 08/12/06 07:23 PM
Sadly I feel that is kind of true.

Engineered at the edge of usability.
Posted By: Elviscat Re: QO All-In-One? - 08/12/06 07:37 PM
never had or seen a problem with a QO, plastic seems plenty durable, breakers clip on nice and tight, I really like the way that most of the buss is covered, keeps you from getting zapped by all that exposed metal...
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