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Posted By: Trick440 What makes a breaker trip? - 06/29/06 08:45 PM
I was thinking it was heat.

But on breakers I'm reading that the current interrupting rating is max. rms 10k amps.



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Posted By: Ron Re: What makes a breaker trip? - 06/29/06 09:21 PM
Most molded case breakers have a thermal sensor and a magnetic sensor. Thermal is for an overload and magnetic is for short circuits.
The 10kAIC that you might see on some breakers, is the maximum amount of short circuit current that it can still reliably open. >10kA may cause catastrophic failure and explode.
Posted By: mahlere Re: What makes a breaker trip? - 06/29/06 09:50 PM
A squirrel across 2 phases will make a circuit breaker trip [Linked Image]
Posted By: e57 Re: What makes a breaker trip? - 06/30/06 12:24 AM
I suppose domestic animales like cats dogs and fish would too...
Posted By: electure Re: What makes a breaker trip? - 06/30/06 12:46 AM
What makes a FPE Stablok trip?

Nothing [Linked Image]
Posted By: LK Re: What makes a breaker trip? - 06/30/06 01:08 AM
Quote: "What makes a FPE Stablok trip?"

The intense heat, as the building burns to the ground.
Posted By: Scott35 Re: What makes a breaker trip? - 06/30/06 04:26 AM
Trick440:

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But on breakers I'm reading that the current interrupting rating is max. rms 10k amps.

To add with the other replies, the "10KAIC" rating of the Breaker you are referring to, means that it may be used on Systems, which the maximum Fault Current Level does not exceed 10,000 Amps (RMS, not Peak).

More to the point; it may be used in Equipment rated no more than 10KAIC, and at a point on the system, which has an available SCA (Short Circuit Amperes) up to a maximum of 10KAIC.

There are 3 commonly used calculation methods available, to figure the SCA at various points along a System. These are:
  • Ohmic Method
  • Per-Unit Method
  • Point-To-Point Method


The "Point-To-Point" Method is most commonly used on systems up to 2.5 MVA, 0 - 600 VAC.

Breakers (and Fuses) without any Fault Ratings listed on them, are to be figured as having a maximum of 5KAIC.

Common AIC limits (ratings) for Molded Case Circuit Breakers and Fuses, used on Low Voltage Power Systems (0-600VAC) are:

* 5KAIC
* 10KAIC
* 18KAIC
* 22KAIC
* 30KAIC
* 42KAIC
* 65KAIC
* 100KAIC
and
* 200KAIC

As mentioned, the rated AIC of the device + equipment it is installed in, is the maximum the device may withstand before failure.
Failure may be in the form of:

* Inability to open under fault conditions (contacts of Breaker welded closed, or arc sustained between terminals of the element inside a Fuse),

* Explosive rupture of the device,

* Device catches fire,

* All three of the above.

OCPDs are very interesting, and the design characteristics used when planning a Building's Power System are just as interesting.
Proper Electrical Systems Design Engineering uses an approach of several factors for the OCPDs.

Of course, the maximum SCA is one of the most important design issues, and there are 2 ways to design for a System with a high SCA available.

One method is a Fully Rated System - which uses Equipment rated at the highest level possible at various points.
This is a more "forgiving" approach, and makes System Coordination easier;

The other method is a Series Rated System - which is designed to have an OCPD with a "Lower AIC Rating" to be protected by an "Upstream" OCPD with a higher AIC Rating.

This design approach is a lower priced option, but has some draw backs as compared to a Fully Rated System.

First drawback is the possibility of someone changing out or installing OCPDs with an insufficient capacity on the system.

Second drawback is if the Power Transformer gets changed out in the future, and the new one has a higher Capacity, &/or a lower % Impedance.
This changes the available SCA on the system, and now the Series Rated equipment may fail during a fault condition.

Third drawback is the difficulty in designing a "Selective System" (explained later).

Other drawbacks include:
* All equipment must be classified as compliant for Series rating,
* All equipment used on the system in a series fashion must be from the same manufacturer + be listed as compatible together in a series rated setup,
* Series rating may not be done where Motor Circuits are on the Load Side of Series Rated equipment,
* Non-Selective Coordination may affect the System's overall performance and fault trip abilities.

The next important system design approach deals with "System Selectivity".
This refers to when an overcurrent condition trips one, two, or all of the OCPDs in the path of the Current.

A "Non-Selective" System would be where a Panelboard, fed by a 100 Amp Breaker, has a fault on a 20 Amp 1 Pole Branch Circuit; and instead of only the 20/1 tripping, the 100 Amp breaker trips - and the 20/1 stays closed.

This obviously sucks [Linked Image]!

So to avoid the annoyance of Non-Selectivity, the "Target Design Ideal" is to coordinate the OCPDs into a "Selective System".

This design approach normally eliminates the problems of Non-Selective coordination, by applying "Time/Current Trip Curves" against each OCPD's type and location.

One last design factor of consideration for OCPDs (Over Current protection Devices), is the use of Instantanious Trip devices, Time-Delay devices, Current-Limiting devices, Inverse Time-Trip devices, and "Fast Acting" devices.

All of these characteristics above are used to evaluate and properly design a safe + trouble-free Power System.

Feel free to pop in with other questions!

Scott35
Posted By: Scott35 Re: What makes a breaker trip? - 07/08/06 09:35 AM
*** BUMP ***

Bumping up thread for more discussions.

Scott35
Posted By: Scott35 Re: What makes a breaker trip? - 07/15/06 09:17 AM
Posted for ECN Member "KENBO"

***Inside a Molded Case Circuit Breaker***

Submitted By "KENBO"

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Member's Text Below:

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Trick440:
Here is a photo of a molded breaker I have opened up for my students. It is for domestic use in the UK
Over current flows through the coil, lifts the center pin to break the contacts, arc gets drawn in over the finns and stretched to breaking point.

Hope this helps make some of the explanations clearer.

I do not have any picts of oil filled breakers (yet)

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Moderator's Note:
Thanks, KENBO, for the contribution!

Scott35

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Posted By: Trumpy Re: What makes a breaker trip? - 07/15/06 11:08 AM
CB's used in Domestic Installations outside of the US (ie 230/240V) have the following rupturing capacity:
  • 3kA
  • 6kA
  • 10kA
  • New one 16kA.

All are single pole.
Posted By: Dave T Re: What makes a breaker trip? - 07/15/06 08:52 PM
Scott35
Scott, that looks like a UL1077 supplementary protector type breaker where the magnetic structure is a bit more peculiar than the common UL489 device.
In any event, to answer the question of how a breaker trips.
It's commonly know that the breaker is made up of a line and load end, the line end can either plug onto a bus and be constructed as such to attach a cable of wire to.
The line end is attached to the stationary contacts. The moving contacts are held against the stationary contacts with contact springs. A trip bar instantaneously releases the contacts to the open position. As the contacts travel to the open position they travel through what is called an arc chute. The arc chute consists of a series of metal plates that spilt up and cool the arcs as it is pulled buy the moving contacts. The combination of the speed at which the contacts open and the arc chute extinguish the arc.
The trip bar is activated by either a thermal element of magnetic element. When either responds to trip it instantaneously hits the trip bar, the trip bar releases the contacts causing them to open.
The current passes from the moving contact though a flexible shunt to the thermal/magnetic elements.
The thermal element commonly consists of a bimetallic element. This strip of two different metals that are bonded together will bend when heated. You may identify this bimetallic element in the picture as supplied by Scott35. Just locate the line end terminal at the top right of the breaker, follow the shiny conductor to the left just below that Phillips head crew. Just to the left of that screw you can see the factory thermal calibration screw adjustment. Then the bimetallic thermal element slopes down to the right. When that element flexes at the far right end it will release the moving contacts. When properly constructed and calibrated it will respond to a given overload current based upon an I2t time current curve. Less over current=longer time to trip. More current=shorter trip time, etc.
The current also passes through a magnetic trip element that responds to short circuit currents for which there is no time delay. This element is commonly made up of a simple piece of steel that is pulled magnetically by the magnetic field created by fault current. Like the thermal element, it to will hit that trip bar releasing the contacts.
Magnetic elements often are calibrated to trip at 6-7x the rating of a residential breaker and 10x for the commercial/industrial breaker with a calibration allowance of +-20%.
The, the current path completes it way to the load end connections.
The thermal element of this breaker not only will respond to the heating affect of overcurrent but it is also influence by the ambient temperature that the breaker is operating. As the ambient temperature increases this thermal element will bend even without any load. When this happens, the breaker can not carry as much current causing it to trip. This is call derating that is the breaker automatically derates when the ambient temperature increases.
On the subject of the interrupting rating or kaic, it must be remembered that the supply source will dump a give amount of current into a short circuit or faulted conductor the magnitude of which is base largely upon what the source is able to supply called available fault current.
The breaker must be able to open its contacts clearing short circuit currents that can be as high as 10,000a in residential locations to many times that in commercial and industrial faculties.

To give you an idea of the power that must be address if a breaker did have to interrupt 10kaic at 120v that would be 10,000a x 120v= 1,200,000watts in a fraction of a second as the contacts open. That is why breakers that have multiple voltage ratings, that the KAIC rating is lower at the higher voltages.
It is extremely important that a circuit breaker be applied within its rating.
Posted By: ShockMe77 Re: What makes a breaker trip? - 07/15/06 09:15 PM
Scott35, thanks for all of your brilliant explanations of all things electrical. I often read the Technical Area section (and Theory), and I would like to say thank you.

What does AIC stand for?

Alternating Interupt Current?

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Posted By: Dave T Re: What makes a breaker trip? - 07/15/06 10:29 PM
Amps interrupting capacity AIC and 'k' for kilo(AIC/1000).
Alternating interrupt current? I'm not familiar with the context that you have found this term used in. As far as alternating current in concerned there may be both symetrical an asymetrical interrupting ratings that may be provided with some devices.
Dave T
Posted By: Scott35 Re: What makes a breaker trip? - 07/16/06 06:13 AM
ShockMe77,
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Scott35, thanks for all of your explanations.

Thank you for the kind words, and for checking out the stuff posted here!
Glad to be of help!!!

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What does AIC stand for?

Amperes Interrupting Capacity.

AIC is typically rated in "kilo-Amperes", or "X * 1000" Amperes (10 KAIC = 10,000 AIC).

There is another abbreviated term:

A.I.R.

This is Amperes Interrupting Rating

"A.I.R." (Interrupting Rating)is actually the marked rating on the Circuit Breaker, as established by testing.
"A.I.R." is also more related to the Bus Short Circuit rating and bracing than the term "A.I.C."

"A.I.C." (Interrupting Capacity) is the _Actual Test Current_ + Laws, which the Circuit Breaker "sees" during testing, for standard circuit breaker applications (as paraphrased by IEEE!).

Something to consider when figuring SCA at various points along a system:

Motors, along with Reactive Loads (like Ballasts, Discharge Lighting, Inductive Heating, Arc Welders, etc.), are major contributors of Fault Current.
These items need to be figured into the available Fault Level from the Power Transformer, for a complete SCA value.

The Reactive contributions on projects having less than 10 KVA of Reactive type Loads (Motors + XL / XC devices), are normally not significant enough to impact things - mainly because the Power Transformer may only be able to supply 4KA fault current, and all the Reactive loads combined would only contribute another 1KA maximum fault current - if even that much!

For instance, this example customer might be fed from a 208Y/120V 3 Phase 4 Wire pole mounted Transformer array, with a capacity of 50 KVA - and an "overall" Impedance of 1.6% Z.
The available SCA at the Transformer(s) is somewhere around 9KA.

Let's say the customer has an overhead service drop, with a distance of maybe 100 feet between the Transformer(s) and the actual point of demarc for the Utility company (this would be where the utility's feeders terminate to the Service Entrance feeders).

The distance + the small size of the overhead feeder conductors on the utility side, reduce the available fault level down to maybe 5KA maximum, at the point of demarc.

Additional Impedance of the Service Entrance conductors, plus the Service Disconnect device, brings the available level down to maybe 4.5KA maximum.

Add the possible 1KA fault level of the Reactive items to the possible 5KA at the Service, and the available SCA is less than 10KA.
If the AIR of the Service Equipment + Devices is at least 10K, the system is compliant.

This is what would be found on individual small commercial type offices - like upto 2,000 sq, ft. and only HVAC Motor loads.

When feeders sizes are larger, &/or in multiple, Transformers are larger, closer, low % Z, Service Capacity is large (800 Amps and up), Motor loads are > 10 KVA; the available fault level is much greater.

That's all for now!
Let me know if you would like additional information.

Scott35
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