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Posted By: Redsy "Fun Facts" (or useless trivia) - 10/27/01 10:19 PM
How many know what the U stands for in SEU cable?
No answers, just yay or nay.
Hint: It was used to distinguish SEU from ASE (ASE is something that I've only seen a picture of).
Let's go old-timers!
Posted By: Tom Re: "Fun Facts" (or useless trivia) - 10/27/01 11:02 PM
I don't know, all I've ever heard was rumor & propaganda. I assume you'll let us know the correct answer if no one gets it.

Tom

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Posted By: sparky Re: "Fun Facts" (or useless trivia) - 10/27/01 11:14 PM
Redsy,
I was under the assumption ( check first three letters, ah yes that's him...)
that SEU meant U shaped, and SER meant rounded shape....
Posted By: Bill Addiss Re: "Fun Facts" (or useless trivia) - 10/28/01 01:11 AM
Sparky,
Can you explain the U-shape? [Linked Image]

Hmm, nevermind .. (I think)

Bill

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Posted By: Redsy Re: "Fun Facts" (or useless trivia) - 10/28/01 01:16 AM
Keep it coming, guys.
Sparky, I also still think that SER stands for ROUND. That is why I was confused about the U. I never thought of the shape as being U-shaped.
I have a not-too-old book (1988?) by Joe McPartland that discusses SEU v. ASE.
I'll reveal what I know tomorrow.
Posted By: sparky66wv Re: "Fun Facts" (or useless trivia) - 10/28/01 07:47 AM
Really? I have always used the "R = round" as a mnenomic to remember, but I didn't know it really meant "round"...

Well, whaddya know!
Posted By: Joe Tedesco Re: "Fun Facts" (or useless trivia) - 10/28/01 09:07 AM
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Posted By: Tiffany Sparks Re: "Fun Facts" (or useless trivia) - 10/28/01 07:28 PM
I have an idea......could the U in SEU stand for "Unilay"?
Also found a paragraph that stated what SER was "known as" here:
http://www.homestore.com/home_improvement/howtoguides/CreativeInstallingKitchenRangeReceptacle.asp
Thanks, Tiff
Posted By: sparky Re: "Fun Facts" (or useless trivia) - 10/28/01 11:16 PM
This category of cable is called service entrance round (SER)

( from your link Tiff..)
Posted By: Bill Addiss Re: "Fun Facts" (or useless trivia) - 10/29/01 12:12 AM
Tiff,

"Unilay"? (huh?) what's that?

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Bill
Posted By: Redsy Re: "Fun Facts" (or useless trivia) - 10/29/01 12:32 AM
Drum roll, please...
McGraw-Hill's 1990 NEC Handbook, by Joseph & Brian McPartland explain:
Figure 338-1 shows 2 basic types of service-entrance cable for above ground use. The one without the armor over the conductors is referred to as "Type SE style U" - the letter U standing for "unarmored." That cable is sometimes designated as "Type SEU." The cable assembly with the armor is designated as "Type ASE" cable, with the "A" standing for "armored."
Note- figure 338-1 shows a side by side comparison of the layers of each cable. The ASE has an additional layer of flat, steel armor wrapped over the concentric neutral.

The book also explains that the R in SER stands for Round.
Posted By: Bill Addiss Re: "Fun Facts" (or useless trivia) - 10/29/01 12:42 AM
Redsy,

Oh Yeah, I knew that, but I wasn't allowed to play. It was only for "old-timers"

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Bill
Posted By: sparky Re: "Fun Facts" (or useless trivia) - 10/29/01 12:44 AM
Unarmored!
I would never have guessed.
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Posted By: sparky66wv Re: "Fun Facts" (or useless trivia) - 10/29/01 01:01 AM
unilay: Cable with more than one layer of conductors with direction of lay and lay length the same for all layers.

I thought she got it with that one! (without my help too!)

"unarmored", though... OK...
Posted By: electure Re: "Fun Facts" (or useless trivia) - 10/29/01 07:53 PM
Golly, guys.
I don't think I've ever seen any...of either type!! (and I think I qualify as an old f**t)
Posted By: Bill Addiss Re: "Fun Facts" (or useless trivia) - 10/29/01 10:41 PM
Electure,

You don't use SEU cable for services out by you? What is used for Residential (non-conduit) Services?

Bill
Posted By: Bill Addiss Re: "Fun Facts" (or useless trivia) - 10/31/01 12:43 AM
Redsy sent this picture over:

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