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Posted By: bot540 Eying offsets? - 03/24/05 12:33 AM
I was wondering if other electricians acually use formulas or the multipliers when bending offsets when using 1/2" or 3/4". Or do you just eye it?
Posted By: CTwireman Re: Eying offsets? - 03/24/05 12:39 AM
A single "quickie" offset can be done by eye.

However, multiple, lined up, in-and-out, etc offsets should be done with the measurements and formulas.

Peter
Posted By: e57 Re: Eying offsets? - 03/24/05 01:03 AM
[schwartzenegger]You must vuse de formulars![schwartzenegger]

If its one pipe by itself, I'll eye-ball it. Thumb and feel.

If its 30 next to each other, I use the multipliers, and a magnetic protactor, levels, calculator, chalk-line, lasers of varying types, and a fresh jolt of coffee.

I just got done with a job doing about 20,000'+ of 1/2" and 3/4", all exposed for an Arch's office. If I saw anyone eye-balling I'd throw a fit, if not an object. I had under 10% waste, not bad considering, the amount that actually got bent. 50%
Posted By: Active 1 Re: Eying offsets? - 03/24/05 01:04 AM
Small offsets I just do without thinking. Otherwise I will use formulas unless it's in bad working conditions.

Tom
Posted By: iwire Re: Eying offsets? - 03/24/05 01:11 AM
I use the formulas also on larger and repetitive bends.

We are not taking rocket science here, an offset made of two 15 degree bends has 4 as the multiplier an offset made of two 30 degree bends has a 2 as a multiplier, either are easily done in your head.

A multiplier of 1.4 works well for 45 degree offsets.
Posted By: gfretwell Re: Eying offsets? - 03/24/05 02:21 AM
One of the conduit bending sites had a great trick. A standard hickey is 30 degrees with the handle straight up so you use 30s for your offset and the magic number is 2.
So if I want a 2" offset I put the marks on the pipe 4" apart and line it up to the first mark on the hickey, bend them until the handle is straight up.
Posted By: e57 Re: Eying offsets? - 03/24/05 04:52 AM
A 30 in a single shot with a hicky is a little too tight. IMO

"Straight up" only depends on what you're bending against. All those benders with levels in them make me laugh, find a level floor first.

Site line benders work well, but you can't move your head, or its useless. Hard to do if you need to put your body into 3/4 or larger.

And whats with this.... Some benders are 30 straight up, and some are 45 straight up.

Anyway, I think there needs to be a better bender, and I have some ideas...
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