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Posted By: NJwirenut Here's a scary site.... - 09/18/04 12:21 AM
http://www.faqfarm.com/Home/Electrical
Posted By: Dave55 Re: Here's a scary site.... - 09/18/04 02:25 AM
Yes, please, if your voltage varies check the neutral where it enters your house. Might be better advice to call the POCO.

Dave
Posted By: TxElex Re: Here's a scary site.... - 09/18/04 03:45 AM
Okay that was fun... I liked this one.

"What are the advantages and disadvantages of electricity or static electricity?"

LOL
Posted By: iwire Re: Here's a scary site.... - 09/18/04 04:35 AM
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How can you get 277 volt from residential service?

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Posted By: Trumpy Re: Here's a scary site.... - 09/18/04 11:06 AM
From the site:
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What will electricity travel through the fastest: plastic, paper or yarn?

There are some strange questions on that site, wierd answers too!. [Linked Image]
Posted By: shortcircuit Re: Here's a scary site.... - 09/18/04 11:38 AM
I think some of the advice on that site is dangerous and may hurt someone or worse.
277 volt lighting in a dwelling is not allowed by the code 210.6(A) [Linked Image]
Posted By: GA76JW Re: Here's a scary site.... - 09/18/04 02:21 PM
How do you calculate the total amps used in the house when there are 110V and 220V appliances?


Lots of math involved here and calculations that generally beat up on the average electrician. You can use a rule of thumb, but you know none of this stuff is running continuously so you can't say it's in stone. Take the wattage like on a stove, maybe it's 8500 watts. The math goes like this P =E times I So then, you rework the formula using simple algebra, I = P divided by E. So again, 8500/240 can be #14. We never do this, it's a pain to carry the lighter wire just for lights. So you can figure any appliance this way. The CEC/NEC factors in what are continuous/non-continuos loads though since not all things are turned on at the same time which would allow a standard home to get away with a 100 amp service etc etc. Hope that helps, when in doubt, call a qualified electrician


The original question was "How do you calculate total amps in the house" and the person then goes on to tell him something about #14 and that it is a pain to carry the lighter wire just for lights? I thought he was talking about a stove? I think the best advice given on that whole site (that I saw) was the last line of this one.

when in doubt, call a qualified electrician



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Posted By: Gloria Re: Here's a scary site.... - 09/19/04 05:00 AM
I know what are the disadvantages of static electricity. Am I an expert?
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Please someone tell me a good electrician in Budapest!

One more thing for safety, I walk around the city, I see people working on the top of buildings, with absolutely no security. I guess life is cheaper than we think. Or education missed something very important.

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Posted By: Spark Master Flash Re: Here's a scary site.... - 09/19/04 05:32 AM
I couldn't resist:

Question by anonymous asked on June 21, 2004, at 2:14 pm.
How much electricity does an average 2-story 3-bedroom house use per day, per month, or per year?


Answer by anonymous contributed on September 19, 2004, at 00:26am.

this is easy. first find out how much electricity an average 2-story 4-bedroom house uses per day, month and year. THEN find out how much electricity an average 2-story 2-bedroom house uses per day, month and year.

Add the two amounts.


Divide by two.


There's your answer!
Posted By: SolarPowered Re: Here's a scary site.... - 09/19/04 07:09 AM
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Should a 35 year old house with 100 amp service be upgraded?

Yes, most definitely! You should upgrade the old house to a new one with 200 amp service.
Posted By: classicsat Re: Here's a scary site.... - 09/19/04 09:27 PM
If there is something horribly wrong or dangerous with the 100A system, or is under capacity for the needs of the house, then by all means replace it, otherwise leave it. Our house is served nicely with a 100A service.
(probably 1500 Sq ft, Electric WH, dryer, range, wood heat, plus the barn which only has one lighting circuit, and a couple outlet circuits)
Posted By: pauluk Re: Here's a scary site.... - 09/20/04 05:33 AM
Here are a couple of entries which caught my eye. The guy answering this first question is rather misinformed:
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Why does the US run at 110 volts when most of world runs at 220+ volts?

In terms of power production - all power is the same. It is then transmitted over High Voltage cables - usually above 10K Volts.
The power is then stepped down before it reaches our homes.

U.S, Japanese and some other countries receive 110V in the form of 2 wires - 1 Live and 1 Neutral

(2 phase system)

Other countries receive 2 live and in some cases 2 live in addition to 1 neutral to create this 220-240V.

Historically many countries originally used the 110V or 2 phase system.

Some may argue that the US is behind or has just managed to stay afloat with this old system longer.

The only advantage to receveing 110V is less injury to the nervous system in case of electric shock.

The downside is due to more current to compensate for the power you are more likely to get more burn (Yes skin burning) due to the 110V.

The disadvantage of 110V as compared to 220V is more losses due to resistence. Higher current needed to compensate for lower voltage creates more heat and therefore more resistence in the system and thus the need for more power.

Here's a reasonable enough homeowner question I suppose, but you might have a hard time even understanding the reply!
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I have an old house with mostly 2-prong (ungrounded?) outlets. I have computer equipment, including a UPS, that requires 3-prong, grounded outlets.

Should I just use adapters, or should I call an electrician and get new outlets?

The electricity in the home comes in on a 200-amp circuit breaker.


Older home half updated wire other half older wire it was gone through by eletric guy old wire in armored flex tube metal updated 200amp box eveything upgraded butt ? no ground in two wire small current going through when you touch wire and box not when you touch it free standing the box if you need to connect ground you cant small low current bleeding in box and tube what to do all old wire protect with armored metal flex tube thank you have a blessed day kevin

Huh??? [Linked Image]




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Posted By: Crowbar Re: Here's a scary site.... - 09/20/04 12:36 PM
Just goes to show that a little bit of knowledge can be a dangerous thing.
Posted By: cpalm1 Re: Here's a scary site.... - 09/20/04 10:26 PM
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Question by John asked on May 10, 2004, at 5:18 pm.
Why was 120 volts choosen as the standard voltage of homes in the US? i.e. why not some other arbitrary voltage?


Answer by Andy contributed on June 10, 2004, at 9:11pm. Last updated on June 11, 2004, at 10:43pm.
Why not us 120?? We could use 220 or so like the Europeans only there's is 50, their TV and computes suck. 240 volts is too much in your house for simple stuff, you would get a worse beating/shock if you were working on stuff on your own. There are a whole ton of complicated other reasons having to do with transformers and transmission lines and the math involved. I recommend a book from Barnes and Nobles and a Hazelnut latte !!


Andy
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ahh, the European computers and TVs suck because their current is 50. (im guessing he means Hertz) so i guess our computers and TVs are better because our current is 60 Hz.
Posted By: Big Jim Re: Here's a scary site.... - 09/21/04 05:08 AM
OK, I'll admit it. I read down through the questions and I was too afraid to actually read the answers. Pretty much the short answer to all of them is, "Call an electrician before you kill yourself."
Posted By: pauluk Re: Here's a scary site.... - 09/21/04 07:37 AM
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ahh, the European computers and TVs suck because their current is 50. (im guessing he means Hertz) so i guess our computers and TVs are better because our current is 60 Hz.
I saw that one too. The computer I'm using at this moment is running on 240V 50Hz power, and strangely enough it seems to work just as well as a computer on 120V 60Hz in the States. Ah well, there goes his theory. [Linked Image]
Posted By: Trumpy Re: Here's a scary site.... - 09/21/04 08:47 AM
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240 volts is too much in your house for simple stuff, you would get a worse beating/shock if you were working on stuff on your own.
Hmm,
I've never read that in any Safety literature before!. [Linked Image]
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