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Posted By: tomselectrc fill factor in a box - 09/17/04 12:18 PM
do'es a gfi plug change the fill factor in a box
Posted By: Ryan_J Re: fill factor in a box - 09/17/04 01:18 PM
No. Each yoke or strap counts as two conductors, regardless of its physical size.
Posted By: CTwireman Re: fill factor in a box - 09/18/04 01:09 AM
It is always a wise idea to use a deep box for GFIs, dimmers, etc.

I wonder why the code doesn't address the extra space that GFIs take up??

Peter
Posted By: Jacuzzi Guy Electric Re: fill factor in a box - 09/18/04 01:38 AM
If the box is too small. Theres is always the GFI Breaker. No space problems there [Linked Image]
Posted By: iwire Re: fill factor in a box - 09/18/04 06:19 AM
GFCI breaker.

Higher cost, more likely to trip from cumulative leakage currents and you have to go find it if it trips.

I will stick with a GFCI outlets in deep boxes at the point of use. [Linked Image]

The majority of our prints require GFCI outlets at each location that needs GFCI protection. [Linked Image]

Bob
Posted By: CJS Re: fill factor in a box - 09/18/04 03:05 PM
Yeah, that's the other thing: GFI's in standard boxes.
It's a good idea to use a larger box but not mandatory. Most of us will learn by experience in this regard because you will often have a ground fault after cramming all of that into the box!

We don't need the NEC to dictate our every move do we? That book keeps getting thicker & thicker as it is...

Anyone who has ever installed a GFI receptacle in a standard sized weather-proof box knows that if you have more than one cable entering the box you will have one helluva time getting that receptacle into the box. And so you add a weather-proof extension ring and you're good to go.
Same with an indoor box: Use a 20.5 cu. in. or even a 22 cu. in. if you have more than one romex to contend with. You'll be glad you do at trim-out.

:~)
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