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Posted By: Dallas Adventurous Electricians - 09/04/04 03:18 PM
I was looking through the internet jobs posting sites, and I came across one in Colorado (a favorite "wish I lived/worked there" dream). It was posted for Englewood, CO, so I read on;

Raytheon Careers

ELECTRICIAN


Seeking a unique adventure as well as employment? How would you like to be one of the few people on the planet to work and live in the unique environment of the Antarctic? Raytheon Polar Services is the primary contractor for the National Science Foundation's (NSF) U.S. Antarctic Program. We are currently seeking Electricians for contract positions, which include deployment to South Pole station in Antarctica, for the austral summer season (appx October to February) and/or the austral winter season (appx January to November).

Maybe a bit TOO adventurous for this married electrician!
Posted By: C-H Re: Adventurous Electricians - 09/04/04 03:45 PM
I wonder if they use ice rods instead of ground rods in Antarctica?

"Could you please go out and fix that wiring today? Don't complain, the weather is fine. It's only -40 today." [Linked Image]
Posted By: Dave55 Re: Adventurous Electricians - 09/04/04 04:38 PM
Sounds like fun except for the trip to the supplier, or waiting for supplies.

Dave
Posted By: Pat@Amber Re: Adventurous Electricians - 09/04/04 04:59 PM
Wonder what the ambient temp. correction factors are?
Posted By: amp-man Re: Adventurous Electricians - 09/05/04 05:23 AM
I knew a guy who spent a year there, providing systems support for the station. He was a general maintenance man.

The stories were great! Like the time one of the scientists asked Alan to build him a simple table to be used outside for some experiment. They talked basic dimensions and construction, and Alan give the PhD a delivery time.

It was clear and sunny, with temps around minus 60 F, so Alan went to the materials stores (very well-supplied) and got the wood he needed, took it to the wood shop (incredibly well equipped), and machined the pieces. One of his fellow mechanics asked how it fit together, and Alan said that he'd know when he assembled it outside.

Word got around that Alan wasn't going to test-fit it inside, so at the appointed time, a big crowd gathered to see him fit it together. Alan told me that he was pretty sure eveything would fit, but he knew that if he screwed up that he'd be the talk of the station for weeks.

So the table has maybe a dozen pieces. Alan said that when he got half of them together, everyone was cheering for a screwup. He said that as he put the next to last part in place, he was sweating--at -60 degrees!

The last piece slipped nicely into place, the crowd let out a cheer, and Alan turned around and took a bow!

Another thing, the company running the facility at that time did it on a cost plus basis. So the staff was encouraged (well, ordered) to requisition as much materials and as many supplies as they possibly could.

Alan said that there was an area in the materials stores with 10 foot high shelves that went on for 30 feet with nothing but spare electric motors. The had stockpiled enough motors to replace every motor in the place three or four times over.

So he spent a year down there. He came back after overwintering there and had a tough time readjusting to civilization. It took almost a year before he felt comfortable again in a big city. But he said he wouldn't trade the experience for anything.

Cliff
Posted By: CharlieE Re: Adventurous Electricians - 09/05/04 11:41 AM
That reminds me of some of the adventures of a man named Bennie on another forum. Those that know him know what I am talking about. [Linked Image]
Posted By: iwire Re: Adventurous Electricians - 09/05/04 12:06 PM
I was thinking the same thing Charlie.

Bennie would say to bring a bucket of dirt for grounding purposes. [Linked Image]

Right now 8 AM est 9/5 it is -71 F at the south pole.

Here are some Antarctic weather facts

Coldest Temp:
-129°F (-89°C) on July 21, 1983
Location: Vostok Station

Warmest Temp:
+59°F (+15°C) on Jan 5, 1974
Location: Vanda Station

Mean Temps:
Winter: -40 to -94°F (-40 to 70°C)

Summer: -5 to -31°F (-15 to 35°C)
Posted By: ga.sparky56 Re: Adventurous Electricians - 09/05/04 02:57 PM
I thought of Bennie when I saw this.

Russell
Posted By: Dallas Re: Adventurous Electricians - 09/05/04 05:21 PM
Looks like I'm missing out on Bennie's escapades. Is he a homeowner DIY, or a "professional" [Linked Image] ?

I do wonder how they compensate for the temperature extremes when wiring. Obviously PVC outside is out, so no UF cable, or NM conduit. Even THHN wire's outer jacket cracks fairly easily here in the Midwest in the really cold times, so I'll bet ampacity ranges can be fudged in Antartica, just a bit. Sounds like a good place for testing superconductor wiring.
Posted By: ga.sparky56 Re: Adventurous Electricians - 09/05/04 05:36 PM
Dallas,Bennie was a Professional who forgot more about theory and electrical work in general, than a lot of us will ever learn,and worked in places on this earth most of us only read about.

Bennie passed on a couple of months ago. [Linked Image]


Russell
Posted By: iwire Re: Adventurous Electricians - 09/05/04 05:40 PM
Bennie was no DIYer.

I can not begin to tell you all about Bennie but I will tell you a bit.

Pilot, USMC, Electrician, Inspector, Boxer

He worked on the US military atomic projects, the military had him on the Antarctic, Europe, the bikini islands.

My comment about the bucket of dirt would be a typical Bennie answer when some one would say electrical systems need an earth reference to operate.

I learned to think outside the box about the electrical trade from Bennie.

I think many of us look at the way we do things as the only safe way, well there are other ways to do things.

Grounding was a hot topic for Bennie.

I had great respect for him, he has now past away.

Bob
Posted By: pauluk Re: Adventurous Electricians - 09/05/04 06:39 PM
I hadn't realized that Bennie was no longer with us. [Linked Image]

I made his acquaintance via that other forum shortly after joining ECN, and exchanged some ideas with him for quite a few months, especially relating to the different grounding and bonding systems that are used in different parts of the world. (And was there anywhere in the world that Bennie had not visited?)

I guess it must be almost a year since I'd last heard from him. Sorry to hear the sad news.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Adventurous Electricians - 09/05/04 07:05 PM
Here is a topic that hits close to home.
I P.M.ed a large remodel / tenant finsh for Ratheon here in Denver. An apprentice who worked for me at that time filled out an application to go "On the Ice" (Ratheons term for anyone who goes to the South Pole.) He ended up going down for a six month project. I recently talked to him and he said it was quite the adventure but that doing tenant finish at McMurdo was no different than doing a government spec tenant finish here in Denver. He said the best part was the month after which he spent wandering around New Zeland.

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Posted By: Dallas Re: Adventurous Electricians - 09/05/04 10:56 PM
I apologise if my comments were off base about Bennie. I managed to take the few references and comments way out of context. I assumed, and we all know the results of assuming.

He sounds like he was an interesting fellow. Was he a "free spirit"? I've known a couple of guys like that, and they definitely weren't family type people. Great people, just had no time for family.
Posted By: Dallas Re: Adventurous Electricians - 09/05/04 10:57 PM
I apologise if my comments were off base about Bennie. I managed to take the few references and comments way out of context. I assumed, and we all know the results of assuming.

He sounds like he was an interesting fellow. Was he a "free spirit"? I've known a couple of guys like that, and they definitely weren't family type people. Great people, just had no time for family.
Posted By: sparky Re: Adventurous Electricians - 09/06/04 12:06 AM
Bennie was a free thinker

when others ran, he walked...

his style on the old IAEI bb, as well as many others was unique

~S~

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