I am looking for any thoughts on the recent introduction of the push-in wire connectors. I know this may drag on like the twist/no twist debate but wanted to get some feedback. I do not like the backstabs on devices but these seem to be better. I just purchased some Ideal connectors. They seem to grip the wire well although they are only supposed to be a one time use item. Any thoughts?

I'll stay out of it this time...



[This message has been edited by sparky66wv (edited 08-31-2001).]

No I won't...

I'm honestly unfamiliar with the Ideal brand of push-ins... Not that the brand would make any difference to me...

Could you or someone please elaborate on these? I'm willing to be a little more open minded if y'all here think they're worthy...

[This message has been edited by sparky66wv (edited 08-31-2001).]

tried them, do notlikethem, cannot see any time savings when hooking up an outlet or switch, they cost more than wirenuts, cannot reuse them if you have to change somthing.
another idea that just does not work as well a someone hoped

We had an Ideal rep. in 2 weeks ago and he dropped off some samples. Anyone want a 1 or 2, just ask, I'll send them(while supplies last).

Arnt they similar to the ones that come with slope ceiling recessed fixtures ? I'd prefer to wire nut the thing rather than try pushing them in all the time. Also as someone said above any changes then you have to cut them off so wheres the savings.

I found a great use for the Wagos. Capping off wires. That's about it. (maybe low load internal fixture wiring like a ballast). I don't trust 'em

I use 'em in special situations--

1. I open up a box for a switch or outlet replacement, and the whole thing is so full of debris (paper filler, plaster, dust) that I feel obligated to clean it up. Usually one or more of the conductors is verrrry short.
The push-in connectors are compact enough that the box is easier to get back together, and being able to stab-in the wire can really save the day.

2. Any old work situation where the wire is way short, basically impossible to get a wire nut onto.

3. New construction where the rocker's router has trimmed one or more conductors short.

Those of you who don't like 'em, have you made a splice with one and tried to pull it apart? I have, and have found the clamping action strong and irreversible. Keep in mind that a lot of guys though wire nuts were bogus, thought that a properly wrapped and soldered splice was the only was to go...