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Posted By: PaulCornwall new to this and from the UK - 06/05/03 07:06 PM
hello fellow sparks,,, came across this forum so thought i would join,,

so hello USA hows it hangin??

oh my name is not cornwall,, thats where i live..

look forward to many a discussion

Paul
Posted By: Bjarney Re: new to this and from the UK - 06/05/03 07:23 PM
Paul, welcome. The world is getting smaller. You may have noticed the moderator of the Non-US Electrical Systems & Trades forum at E-C.net has a handle of "pauluk". There is quite a bit of daily traffic in that group, too.
Posted By: Roger Re: new to this and from the UK - 06/05/03 10:21 PM
I second the welcome Paul.

Roger
Posted By: Bill Addiss Re: new to this and from the UK - 06/06/03 12:42 AM
Welcome aboard!

Looking forward to your participation!

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Bill
Posted By: txsparky Re: new to this and from the UK - 06/06/03 01:11 AM
Howdy Paul!! [Linked Image]:
Posted By: njelectricmaster Re: new to this and from the UK - 06/06/03 03:34 AM
Hello from South Dakota!

Welcome Paul.
Posted By: Redsy Re: new to this and from the UK - 06/06/03 10:27 AM
Hello from Philadelphia.
Posted By: ga.sparky56 Re: new to this and from the UK - 06/06/03 10:38 AM
Welcome and hello from Georgia.

Russell
Posted By: Trainwire Re: new to this and from the UK - 06/06/03 01:29 PM
greasings and lubrications from the PA dutch country, steam powered railroad!

TW
Posted By: pauluk Re: new to this and from the UK - 06/06/03 07:20 PM
Hi Paul, and welcome to ECN. [Linked Image]

Which part of the county are you in? Just curious, as I used to live in Cornwall years ago in a small village between Redruth and Truro.
Posted By: sparky Re: new to this and from the UK - 06/06/03 11:40 PM
good grief!
[Linked Image] where's Paul Revere when ya need him? [Linked Image]

Welome from Vermont

~Steve aka sparky
Posted By: Trumpy Re: new to this and from the UK - 06/07/03 03:57 AM
Gidday Paul!.
Welcome to ECN, mate. [Linked Image] [Linked Image] [Linked Image]
Posted By: Trumpy Re: new to this and from the UK - 06/07/03 12:21 PM
Paul,
How did you find ECN?.
Just curious. [Linked Image]

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Posted By: mlk682 Re: new to this and from the UK - 06/08/03 02:54 PM
Greetings from Minnesota!!
Posted By: PaulCornwall Re: new to this and from the UK - 06/08/03 04:50 PM
well thanx for all those hello's look forward to chating
Posted By: ChrisO Re: new to this and from the UK - 06/10/03 12:23 AM
Hi

I'm in St Ives where are you ?

Chris
Posted By: PaulCornwall Re: new to this and from the UK - 06/12/03 08:15 PM
i live in launceston... in the big smoke..

been here for 4 years..came here for the easy life but got to busy and now i am really stressed..
there is so much work here its untrue...

message for paul,, yes i know goonhilly, worked there for a couple of days in the visiter centre,, fixing there show,,
Posted By: SJT Re: new to this and from the UK - 06/18/03 06:54 PM
Hello Paul,
Welcome aboard! What is the standard voltage in homes in England. Do you follow the National Electrical code there, or do they have their own?
Posted By: PaulCornwall Re: new to this and from the UK - 06/18/03 09:23 PM
hello sjt... we always say our voltage is 240.. but they are trying to harmonize with europe.. so we have dropped to 230v and they have gone up to 220v ( i think ) thing is when you put you voltmeter across the mains it still seems to read 240v..

we have our own regulations,, BS5371.. thats british standard.. written in gobbely gook..

cable colours are.. live red... neutral.. black... earth... green and yellow

in flex they are live.. brown..blue...neutral,,, earth... green and yellow
Posted By: harold endean Re: new to this and from the UK - 06/19/03 03:20 AM
Greetings Paul from Harold in New Jersey. I think my state was named after a British Island named Jersey.
Posted By: pauluk Re: new to this and from the UK - 06/19/03 07:49 AM
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we have our own regulations,, BS5371.. thats british standard.. written in gobbely gook
It's actually BS7671, IEE Wiring Regulations.

SJT,
Nominal voltages for residential single-phase used to vary between about 220 and 250V depending upon area, but it was all standardized at 240V by the early 1970s.

Now, however, the U.K. has officially adopted the new "Euro-standard" of 230V, but it's more political than practical as yet. Have a look at this thread in the non-U.S. area.
Posted By: PaulCornwall Re: new to this and from the UK - 06/19/03 06:21 PM
whoops your right,, i think i must have had to much lager before i wrote that,, only been doing the job for 25 years...
Posted By: SJT Re: new to this and from the UK - 06/19/03 06:59 PM
Is that 224-240 across 2 hotlegs. Is it 110v from one leg to ground?
Posted By: C-H Re: new to this and from the UK - 06/19/03 07:44 PM
Nope, 230V to ground. 400V phase to phase. (3-phase is the only system used)
Posted By: wa2ise Re: new to this and from the UK - 06/20/03 01:56 AM
Hi, not a sparky myself in the USA. But I've heard some descriptions of wiring in the UK, something to the effect that a house is wired using a loop of wire. And that each outlet has a switch and a fuse. And that the total current allowed by the fuse or circuitbreaker is about twice that of the ampacity of the wire used in the loop. Idea being that each outlet "sees" a pair of sets of wire back to the source. Like a 40 amp breaker protecting a loop of AWG 12 gauge wire. The NEC code says no using parallel wires. Like what happens if there is a break in the loop, and an outlet pulls 35 amps (the remaining wire will get roasted).

Or do I have it wrong?
Posted By: pauluk Re: new to this and from the UK - 06/20/03 08:26 AM
You're quite correct. The standard "ring circuit" here is protected by a 30 or 32A fuse or breaker, and is generally wired with 2.5 sq. mm cable -- That's just fractionally larger than #14 AWG. There's some more information here:
Rings circuits UK style
Ring circuits revisited .

Feel free to come on over to the non-U.S. area and start a new thread if you wish. [Linked Image]

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230V to ground. 400V phase to phase. (3-phase is the only system used)

You will actually find a few single-phase transformers in rural areas where there are just one or two houses standing on their own. But yes, as soon as there's any sort of group of houses you'll see a 240/415V 3-phase 4-wire wye distribution system.




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Posted By: SJT Re: new to this and from the UK - 06/24/03 07:07 PM
How are the methods in England? Do you use romex, and BX cable? Is coduit ran in the walls?
Posted By: SJT Re: new to this and from the UK - 06/24/03 07:08 PM
Sorry about the way I spelled Conduit. Slip of the key
Posted By: pauluk Re: new to this and from the UK - 06/24/03 10:23 PM
SJT,

I've started a new thread in the non-U.S. electrical area of the forum. Just click on this link:
https://www.electrical-contractor.net/ubb/Forum9/HTML/000346.html
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