Date:1/2/2003
Time:2:10:34 PM (CST)
Name:Mario Zamora
E-mail: mario@pluggrip.com
Location: Lindsay, CA

Comments: I was wondering if I can send you a sample of one of our products. Many electrical/building inspectors enjoy our products. I would be happy to send you one free of charge. You can look at them at
http://www.pluggrip.com

Thanks,
mario zamora
pluggrip products
559-562-9363

Second pic shows a
Feed through method?

Since I always pigtail outlets, I have to ask does anybody use this "feed through" method on a 20A circuit? If the device is rated at 15A, what now is the remainder of the circuit rated?

I beleive this creates a weak link for downstream loads.

The tool seems to be geared toward the "Working Hot" issue. Looks like a good gadget for replacment purposes, if you have to work it hot.

they sent me one, via site info, a while back.....

[This message has been edited by sparky (edited 01-03-2003).]

Sparky,
AND??????

Another solution in search of a problem.

At least, he has the receptacle right end up.

I just sent in my "request for freebie" I have a guy that works with me occasionally and this would be great for him. The concept of clean hands seems to escape him and usually white gfci's end up a shade of "dirty hand gray" when he installs them. This may help!

Seems like the company got their pictures backwards.

Apparently their "plug grip pro" only grabs the outlet by the grounding pins...while the normal plug grip (with the indicator lights)is what Joe posted.



You'd think the one with more features (like indicator lights would be the "pro" version.

How come the thing doesn't pull out of the outlet when you're pulling the whole thing out of the box or is it designed for pushing the device back in?

Are the plug pins slightly oversized to compensate for badly worn outlets?

[This message has been edited by SvenNYC (edited 01-03-2003).]

QUOTE: At least, he has the receptacle right end up.

My brother and I were discussing about this right end up on receptacles...After finding an old Black and Decker book with the images of the receptacles with the ground up..

But then why are receptacles still mounted with the ground down?

I always mount my receptacles horizontally with the grounds to the right. Yes it is a case of that is how I was taught so that's how I'll always do it.

Here we go again....

QUOTE: At least, he has the receptacle right end up.

Yeah, that's how pros do it. And then they wrap the conductors around the screw the WRONG way!

Nice pick up Arseegee!!! I didn't notice that when I first looked, but that's a sure sign of someone(homeowner) that hasn't put in many devices.

As for ground up or down. It's down on any of my jobs.

90 degree cord caps or stainless steel face plates.Now where did I put that damn crystal ball?

[This message has been edited by frank (edited 01-03-2003).]

I carry around an unwired Hubbell cord cap for this purpose. It works quite well, and in a pinch, it can also be used as a cord cap.

The only things that have gotten more repeat playings than the up or down question are the Star Spangled Banner, Light My Fire by the Doors, and possibly NEC250-32

Down.

Nice pic, this ends the up/down argument now doesn't it.

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With the proliferation of more and more transformer driven devices, maybe its time for a redesign of the duplex? What do you think would work? How about 2 side by side with wider spacing similar to the surge strips?

I know this creates a compatibility problem for retrofits and also a potential for box sizing, but, the benefits could be worth it.

Jim

Ah the transformer. I hate em. they are on every thing now.

I've used a (very) few products that came with transformers such as this:


The one shown on this web site is an interesting idea...


Speaking of the "which way up" question, here is the famous thread with the very graphic example of why.

[This message has been edited by ThinkGood (edited 01-05-2003).]

Well they have great customer service (or they are really trying to move these things) I e-mailed Friday and received two free samples today (Monday)

E-scott—

Did they toss in a twist-lock version too?

E-scott—

How about a surge-protector version?

Herrington Catalog sells very short ( and probably very overpriced ) extension cords designed to "Liberate your Power Strip from Transformer Tyranny". Seems like a reasonable idea.
http://www.herringtoncatalog.com/t748.html

It is much easier these days to find outlet strips that have transformer friendly outlets so that there is probably less of a "need" for these mini extension cords.

Then there was the recent post for Leviton's new transformer/phone jack device to more easily mount wall/cordless phones.

The transformer tyranny is soon over. Today the small lightweight switching power supplies are at the same price as the conventional transformers, but with much better performance. Expect those heavy wall warts to be gone altogether in five years. Better still, most seem to accept 90-264V and any frequency. Nice when travelling or moving.

I've made up a few of those little extension cords for wall warts using short pieces of extra lamp cord leftovers.

At home I use them for the wall warts for my cordless phone base, answering machine, etc.

At work I have two - one for my portable radio/CD-player combo and one for the power supply to the speaker-phone on my desk.

Since I have a ton of Nema 1-15 male and female caps at home, it actually does come out cheaper than those pre-made ones.

I usually use #18 gauge cord since these things usually consume somewhere in the area of a couple of watts (two or three at the most) and the transformer/rectifier packs are all un-grounded with non-polarized plug pins.

C-H:

As far as SMPSs go, I don't think we'll see the old style x-former based power packs go away any time soon.

For example, you wouldn't wan to use a SMPS for a portable TV or radio. In my experience these things produce too much RF interference. Not good for something designed to pick up radio signals.

However for things like video games, portable CD players, calculators, battery rechargers etc. they sure are a blessing in terms of size reduction. It's a long way from the old AC/DC tube radios that use a big dropper resistor in series with the tube filaments....

[This message has been edited by SvenNYC (edited 01-07-2003).]

Sounds like you need Dr. Ferd's wart remover . Musicians have been using these for years.




SD


[This message has been edited by strangedog (edited 01-09-2003).]

Shop around. Those transformer adapters are available fairly cheap and 2 weeks ago, I bought a hand full for $2.99 each at this computer store.

http://microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0106917

lwinter31, a quality 15 amp receptical is rated 20 amp feed tru, but I pigtail on the rough too, mostly for speed of the finish.