HOW LONG SHOULD IT TAKE TO ROUGH WIRE IN A NEW CONSTRUCTION HOUSE OF NORMAL SIZE, NO FANCY STUFF JUST YOUR AVERAGE 2000 SQ FOOT HOME?????

Welcome to the forum I havent wired a new house for 35 years, think it took 2 guys 3 days back then.

I bet my wife would give you 2 days for the rough on a 2000 back when things were rolling. (8-9 week houses) Maybe a little longer if she stacked another trade in there but it is hard to mix a sparky with anyone else since you are all over the place.

Two days sounds about right on a 2000 sqft place, if all the material is on-site, or in the truck, and the lighting plan is complete. I am going in to my 2nd month on a rough in and to date only have 1/4 of the lighting outlets in place, due to indecision. All of the receptacles are in place, but no wire pulled, because the walls are still subject to move. This will be a loooong project, I see many progress payments on this one.

There is one EC that was doing 'new' resi in the Twp I work in that did a SFD of normal size in one day; rough & service. Houses ranged in the 2k to 2.5k SF.

He had three (3) 2 man crews there, so it worked out to 40+ man hours total. The builders loved him.

That was his 'thing'; new resi construction only. He had a shop with materials all 'on hand', and the crews would have everything they needed. Inspection was 99% no issues, as he personally walked the job before scheduling the inspection.

Other guys locally are in for two to three days, so it basically works out to the same man hours.

The McMansions (still building) are another story. One is in the third week of rough.

In my younger days, (LOL) I worked with my boss and 1 other helper and we knocked off a SFD of small size with no extras in 2 days with service. However even a small house can run a little longer with the more fancy extras you have in there. If you have a single light fixture per room, then it shouldn't take as long. If you have 10 hi hats, smart house technology and a lot of built in furniture,those kinds of extras, then it could take a lot more time.

I KIND OF FITGURED IT WOULD TAKE 2 GUYS, 40 HOURS TO ROUGH IN AND SPLICE FOR INSPECTION AND ANOTHER DAY OR TWO TO FINISH.....ANY THOUGHTS ON COST.....MY DAD USED TO HAVE A COST FOR THE JOB, BUT HE WOULD ALWAYS LEAVE LIGHTING OUT AS A TIME AND MATERIAL FINISH....I KIND OF REMEMBER THE AVERAGE COST FOR A HOUSE WAS ABOUT $5000-$7000 SOUND ABOUT RIGHT???

candyman,

First of all welcome to ECN!

Please don't leave your CapsLock on when typing. All caps makes the posts hard to read, and is considered on most bulletin boards to be "yelling" at us.

i asked a local builder here a couple months ago and he said about 14,000 with spec fixtures

Things have changed a lot.

The AFCI circuits are a factor. Sometimes they cause real grief.

Just figure to lose money on all of your early work until you discover your reality.

The first time out the door in this market should be a money loser.

Manys the time that a GC is bringing you on board because of fiascos in his own very recent past. A GC will always toss out totally absurd numbers to a newbie. Financially ruining subs is all in a days fun for Generals.

In Canada, I don't think you can rough in a 2000 foot house in less than 3 days. (2 men) Since it's your first house, I would allow 4 or 5. Residential is a lot harder than commercial and industrial. More people pick over your work.

Add time for a panel that's far from the kitchen, pot lights, lights over stair wells, built-in stuff, etc. Even an island in the kitchen can be an extra trip to the site. How about a finished basement?

"Manys the time that a GC is bringing you on board because of fiascos in his own very recent past. A GC will always toss out totally absurd numbers to a newbie. "


Very true. Price your own and don't fall for the lead on (suggested retail)price.

I just finished 2 for a GC,The EC retired and moved,

1- The addition he told me ' Ed only has about $1500 left on this one.' Paid me $2200.-

2- New house,Finish, 'I owe him about $2400,'
Me,$4200.

Leland:
Out of curiousity, how much time for the two above?

Last year when we were talking about this I got the price a national builder was paying for a typical 2K sq/ft house in SW Fla. $4543 was the negotiated price for the last one they had on record (labor).

When i apprenticed in the early 90's, we roughed in a house, pulling wire only in two days, it took another 2-3 days to splice and terminate the panel, and a couple of days to finish....now keep in mind the cost of copper and materials were less but the ec was usually in the 6-8 thousans range, lighting excluded... I would imagine that today it must cost at least 10-14 thousand for the average house....

candyman:
Just a thought on my end....keep in mind some of us are referencing US dollars, not Canadian $. I'm not up on the exchange rates!

for once the canadian dollar is worth more, about .005 cents more.....

OK, so for discussion, minus math, we are roughly the same.

PS: It may be easier to convert the 'labor time' into man hours for comparison.

I'm curious to see how much Leland invested in his two jobs above.

yea, me too...I was thinking around 100 man hours start to finish.....what do you think???

North Van you should get top $$ in That area IMHO

I'm not sure about kamloops but building has really slowed down here, not sure that we will see the kinds of dollars that we used to....there are also guys that will wire a house for 5grand and then move on never to be seen again..

the Addition, was 18+- hrs plus all finish material,recessed trims,sub panel breakers,smokes etc.as well as the little things,reinstall-wire new (buried) door bells.
Identify the ckts in the new panel(change).

The house, 32 hrs, all the finish work and materials,same as above.
Also wire in the basement, and disconnects for the A condensers and the trouble shoot/start up.

The 2K sft, house, Me and 1 other guy can rough in,in about 3 days- 48 man hrs- then typically 16-24 for finish. Depending on the fixtures etc.

based on the basic house-slightly above code.

Leland:

Thanks!!!