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Posted By: Joe Tedesco SPAM SPAM SPAM!! SHOOT THE MFER! - 12/13/02 05:23 PM
I am about to travel into cyber space to strangle this SOB! I get about 500 spam messages per week, and I have lost all patience!

Any suggestions? I do use spaminator ...

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DEAR SIR/MA,

REQUEST ASSISTANCE/PARTNERSHIP IN A TRANSFER.

I AM A MEMBER OF A CONTRACT AWARD AND REVIEW COMMITTEE. A CONTRACT
ALREADY EXECUTED BY A FOREIGN FIRM IN AFRICA IN 2000 WAS
OVER-INVOICED BY
US TO THE TUNE OF US$35.5M (THIRTY-FIVE MILLION, FIVE HUNDRED
THOUSAND
UNITED
STATES DOLLARS ONLY).

IN THE LIGHT OF THE ABOVE, I ASKED YOU FOR ASSISTANCE IN THE TRANSFER
OF THE EXCESS FLOATING IN A SUSPENCE ACCOUNT INTO A FOREIGN ACCOUNT
YOU
MAY WISH TO PROVIDE, FOR IT WAS A CATEGORY "A" CONTRACT,
(STRICTLY
RESERVED FOR A
FOREIGN CONTRACTORS) THIS INFORM MY REQUEST, AND ALSO THAT I AM
FORBIDDEN BY MY GOVERNMENT TO RUN ANY FOREGN ACCOUNT.

AFTER THE SUCCESSFUL TRANSFER, 30% OF THE TOTAL SUM WILL GO TO YOU
FOR
YOUR ASSISTANCE. 10% OF THE TOTAL SUM TO COMPENSATE FOR ANY INCIDENTAL
EXPENSES INCURED BY BOTH PARTIES.

MORE DETAILS WILL BE GIVEN IN THE COURSE OF CORRESPONDENCE.

YOUR CONFIDENTIALITY IS HIGLY REQUIRED SINCE I AM STILL IN ACTIVE
SAERVICE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANTICIPATED CORPORATION.

REGARDS,

DR. DANIEL GAMBO (FSS, CFR)

http://www.latinmail.com. Gratuito, latino y en español.
Posted By: SvenNYC Re: SPAM SPAM SPAM!! SHOOT THE MFER! - 12/13/02 05:37 PM
If you frequent any USENet newsgroups, disguise your email address.

Something like (e.g.) what I just did to my email address here:

svennopants@gordsven.com

At the end of your post, put the following in: remove "nopants" to mail me. That cuts down on the automated spam harvesters. Seen a lot of people on the rec.antiques.radio+phono newsgroup do that.

Avoid the "nospam" since I hear now they've developed programs that actually do pick out the nospam and you're back to where you started. That's why I picked out the wacky "nopants" thing.

Also get a bunko free-bee email address from yahoo or MSN or whatever and use that as much as possible for public postings....most of the spam gets deflected there and when it gets full...dump it and get another account. [Linked Image]

Hope this helps.
Posted By: j a harrison Re: SPAM SPAM SPAM!! SHOOT THE MFER! - 12/13/02 06:44 PM
Hey Joe,

you should see my inbox at the office !!!

boy you think you get a few, its all a load of Bull%&@#.

Been gettin em for ages, but some of the other types of mail i get is porn, now that is something i dont mind gettin as long its the missus whos sendin it to me!!

I have over the past year or to got a load of really dodgy stuff that goes direct to our local law enforment offices. !!

As SvenNYC says, it works wonders but be aware these creatures are very good at what they do.


Have fun !!

John H
Posted By: sparky Re: SPAM SPAM SPAM!! SHOOT THE MFER! - 12/13/02 09:58 PM
Joe;
go here to Spam the Spammers

possibly with this.....

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Spam I Am

My name is Spam.
Spam I Am.
I have some stuff I'd like to sell.
Take a look! It's really swell!

I do not want your worthless spam.
I do not want it, Spam I Am.

Spam I Am:
$500 software that really rocks!
Just 20 bucks--still in the box!

You are really full of bunk.
I do not want your bootleg junk!
I do not want your worthless Spam.
I do not want it Spam I Am.

Spam I Am:
How about some fast cash?
Fifty Thousand in a flash!!!

How stupid do you think I am?
I won't join your shady scam.
You are a sucker, you silly gitch.
If it worked, we'd all be rich!
I do not want your worthless spam.
I do not want it Spam I Am.

Spam I Am:
Check out this great idea of mine!
For Web Hosting and Design!

I went to your site; it really sucks!
For this you're charging lots of bucks?
You could at least learn to spell.
Why don't you just go to he**.
I do not want your worthless spam.
I do not want it Spam I Am.

Don't pretend your ads are new.
You insult us when you do.
I won't buy your worthless stocks.
Our heads are not full of rocks
Stop it Spam. Enough's enough.
I do not want your trashy stuff!
I do not want your damn spam!
I do not want it Spam I Am!
Posted By: pauluk Re: SPAM SPAM SPAM!! SHOOT THE MFER! - 12/14/02 09:50 AM
Hehe... Like the new words!

Joe,
I don't know what to say. I only seem to get two or three pieces of this garbage a day at the moment.

The Nigerian "We have $35 million..." messages arrive fairly regularly, but I have a horrible feeling I'm going to start getting more junk very soon, as the last week I've started receiving a lot more of the sleaze-merchants' garbage in my mailbox.

E-Mail Options:
<R>eply to message
<D>elete message
<C>onnect sender across 480 volts
Posted By: Texas_Ranger Re: SPAM SPAM SPAM!! SHOOT THE MFER! - 12/14/02 11:08 AM
I'm constantly adding senders to the spam list. I got one of the farily common "congo republic needs help" messages, but best thing, yesterday and today somebody sent me a US-only offer for cheap cigarettes. I don't smoke. Oh yes, and the advertisement for quality US-flags was very useful for someone from Austria!
Posted By: electric-ed Re: SPAM SPAM SPAM!! SHOOT THE MFER! - 12/14/02 02:50 PM
And don't you love the ones that open a browser window before you can hit the delete button!

Ed
Posted By: Bill Addiss Re: SPAM SPAM SPAM!! SHOOT THE MFER! - 12/14/02 03:46 PM
I wish I had an answer to this.
I get several Hundred per day that I have to wade through. Sometimes 50 or more of the same thing. It does waste a lot of time. I don't want to use filters if I can avoid it because I might miss something important.

My patience with some of these is definately wearing thin!

On the upside though, I've been approved for a $25,000,000 loan that I won't have to pay back!

[Linked Image]
Bill
Posted By: sparky Re: SPAM SPAM SPAM!! SHOOT THE MFER! - 12/15/02 12:44 AM
has anyone tried this?

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Posted By: ThinkGood Re: SPAM SPAM SPAM!! SHOOT THE MFER! - 12/15/02 01:38 AM
Hi.

I have yet to meet anybody who enjoys receiving those "one time mailings", the "courtesy calls", etc.

Also, be aware that many web sites have "privacy policies" and that your e-mail address may be "shared." That means it can be put on a list so you receive e-mail from vendors that offer "similar products and/or services."

Pauluk, I like the options you listed. However, I think the <C>onnect option is difficult for a number of reasons, though it would probably be quite effective.

The <D>elete option is most likely the best, as frustrating as it is knowing that somebody dumps in your inbox and leaves the mess for you to clean up. As to

<R>eply...that's one I definitely wouldn't use. That can get you twice as much spam.

I have come up with my own little practices and "general rules" for dealing with spam when so much of it is coming in that deleting it is so time consuming:

<Fade in with Monty Python's "SPAM" song.>

...N-E-V-E-R reply to the "if you wish to be removed from this list..." type of bait. They're either going to bounce as undeliverable, or worse, you will be confirming that you are a "live" address. At that point, get ready for more of a deluge. (That, of course, does not apply to legitimate e-mail lists that one has subscribed to. I'm talking about the junk e-mail only.)

...Though this can get to be a real pain, where possible/practical, try to use more than one e-mail address.

Then, if your e-mail program provides the feature, filter your received mail into "folders" so that your messages are separate.

For example, one for your closest correspondents, one for your website (or better yet, use a form that lists no e-mail address), one for mailing lists to which you subscribe, etc. This way, if one of the addresses becomes unbearable due to spam, you can delete the address and replace it with something else. Very much annoying, especially having to go through correspondence to notify people of the new address. However, it should bring down the spam level a bit...until the next time.

...Note that there are "crawler" programs that go through web pages looking for e-mail addresses. If your address is on your web page, chances are you are going to get spam. Thus if you use a form rather than an e-mail address, it should help.

...If you have a domain name, the e-mail address that is registered with your domain will most likely get spam. The spammers crawl the domain registration listings as well. That, however, is a listing that must be a valid e-mail address so the domain registrar can reach you via e-mail.

<Cut to Monty Python's "SPAM" song, then fade out.>
Posted By: mountainman Re: SPAM SPAM SPAM!! SHOOT THE MFER! - 12/17/02 03:47 PM
Hey Joe,
If you go to the U.S.Treasury site they will give you more information about those scams. I work at a state office and get the same spam. I just forward them to the treasury office and let them handle it. After awhile they will slow to a stop. Joe G.
Posted By: sparky Re: SPAM SPAM SPAM!! SHOOT THE MFER! - 12/17/02 10:59 PM
Top 10 Spammers
Posted By: CTwireman Re: SPAM SPAM SPAM!! SHOOT THE MFER! - 12/17/02 11:12 PM
Wow, I'm pretty lucky. I get about one spam message a day, and sometimes I don't get any for several days.

Why, you ask?

My original email server, Rocketmail, is now long gone. It was swallowed up by yahoo 3 or 4 years ago. The spammers have no way to send me junk because Rocketmail isn't on any of their lists.

There's no way I'm changing my email address now!!
Posted By: ThinkGood Re: SPAM SPAM SPAM!! SHOOT THE MFER! - 12/18/02 05:11 AM
Hormel actually has a SPAM gift catalog!


[Linked Image from spamgift.com]

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Posted By: Joe Tedesco Re: SPAM SPAM SPAM!! SHOOT THE MFER! - 12/18/02 09:56 AM
mountainman

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Hey Joe,
If you go to the U.S.Treasury site they will give you more information about those scams.

Please add the link to the area that you mention. It sure would be a relief if this works.
Posted By: C-H Re: SPAM SPAM SPAM!! SHOOT THE MFER! - 12/18/02 10:31 AM
Only solution would seem to be to design a new e-mailing system, that isn't uncontrolled. If all addresses were controlled and you couldn't hide or send more than 50 e-mails per day, spamming would become impossible. Compare newsgroups with ECN: ECN is controlled and offers far better advice, without spam.
Posted By: ThinkGood Re: SPAM SPAM SPAM!! SHOOT THE MFER! - 12/19/02 09:46 AM
Here's the FTC's SPAM information site: http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/edcams/spam/


Here's the FTC's "Dirty Dozen:"
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/alerts/doznalrt.htm


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Posted By: Joe Tedesco Re: SPAM SPAM SPAM!! SHOOT THE MFER! - 12/19/02 10:02 AM
Thanks!!

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You’ve Got Spam: How to "Can" Unwanted Email

Do you receive lots of junk email messages from people you don't know? It's no surprise if you do. As more people use email, marketers are increasingly using email messages to pitch their products and services. Some consumers find unsolicited commercial email - also known as "spam" - annoying and time consuming; others have lost money to bogus offers that arrived in their email in-box.

Typically, an email spammer buys a list of email addresses from a list broker, who compiles it by "harvesting" addresses from the Internet. If your email address appears in a newsgroup posting, on a website, in a chat room, or in an online service's membership directory, it may find its way onto these lists. The marketer then uses special software that can send hundreds of thousands - even millions - of email messages to the addresses at the click of a mouse.

How Can I Reduce the Amount of Spam that I Receive?

Try not to display your email address in public. That includes newsgroup postings, chat rooms, websites or in an online service's membership directory. You may want to opt out of member directories for your online services; spammers may use them to harvest addresses.

Check the privacy policy when you submit your address to a website. See if it allows the company to sell your address. You may want to opt out of this provision, if possible, or not submit your address at all to websites that won't protect it.

Read and understand the entire form before you transmit personal information through a website. Some websites allow you to opt out of receiving email from their "partners" - but you may have to uncheck a preselected box if you want to opt out .

Decide if you want to use two email addresses - one for personal messages and one for newsgroups and chat rooms. You also might consider using a disposable email address service that creates a separate email address that forwards to your permanent account. If one of the disposable addresses begins to receive spam, you can shut it off without affecting your permanent address.

Use a unique email address. Your choice of email addresses may affect the amount of spam you receive. Spammers use "dictionary attacks" to sort through possible name combinations at large ISPs or email services, hoping to find a valid address. Thus, a common name such as jdoe may get more spam than a more unique name like jd51x02oe. Of course, there is a downside - it's harder to remember an unusual email address.

Use an email filter. Check your email account to see if it provides a tool to filter out potential spam or a way to channel spam into a bulk email folder. You might want to consider these options when you're choosing which Internet Service Provider (ISP) to use.

What Can I Do With the Spam in my In-Box?

Report it to the Federal Trade Commission. Send a copy of unwanted or deceptive messages to uce@ftc.gov The FTC uses the unsolicited emails stored in this database to pursue law enforcement actions against people who send deceptive spam email.

Let the FTC know if a "remove me" request is not honored. If you want to complain about a removal link that doesn't work or not being able to unsubcribe from a list, you can fill out the FTC's online complaint form at www.ftc.gov. Your complaint will be added to the FTC's Consumer Sentinel database and made available to hundreds of law enforcement and consumer protection agencies.

Whenever you complain about spam, it's important to include the full email header. The information in the header makes it possible for consumer protection agencies to follow up on your complaint.

Send a copy of the spam to your ISP's abuse desk. Often the email address is abuse@yourispname.com or postmaster@yourispname.com. By doing this, you can let the ISP know about the spam problem on their system and help them to stop it in the future. Make sure to include a copy of the spam, along with the full email header. At the top of the message, state that you're complaining about being spammed.

Complain to the sender's ISP. Most ISPs want to cut off spammers who abuse their system. Again, make sure to include a copy of the message and header information and state that you're complaining about spam.

How Can I Avoid Spam Scams?

The FTC suggests that you treat commercial email solicitations the same way you would treat an unsolicited telemarketing sales call. Don't believe promises from strangers. Greet money making opportunities that arrive at your in box with skepticism. Most of the time, these are old fashioned scams delivered via the newest technology.

Here are some of the most common scam offers likely to arrive by email:

Chain letters. Chain letters that involve money or valuable items and promise big returns are illegal. If you start one or send one on, you are breaking the law. Chances are you will receive little or no money back on your "investment." Despite the claims, a chain letter will never make you rich. For more information on chain emails, check out www.ftc.gov/chainmail.

Work-At-Home Schemes. Not all work at home opportunities deliver on their promises. Many ads omit the fact that you may have to work many hours without pay. Or they don't disclose all the costs you will have to pay. Countless work at home schemes require you to spend your own money to place newspaper ads; make photocopies; or buy the envelopes, paper, stamps, and other supplies or equipment you need to do the job. The companies sponsoring the ads also may demand that you pay for instructions or "tutorial" software. Consumers deceived by these ads have lost thousands of dollars, in addition to their time and energy.

Weight Loss Claims. Programs or products that promote easy or effortless long term weight loss don't work. Taking off weight, and keeping it off, requires exercise and permanent changes in your diet. All the testimonials and guarantees in your email are not worth the space they take up on your hard drive.

Credit Repair Offers. Ignore offers to erase accurate negative information from your credit record. There's no legal way to do that.

Advance Fee Loan Scams. Be wary of promises to provide a loan for a fee, regardless of your past credit history. Remember, legitimate banks don't issue credit cards without first checking your credit.

Adult Entertainment. You may get an email from an adult entertainment site that claims to offer content for "free" and doesn't require a credit card number for access. All you have to do is download a "viewer" or "dialer" program. However, once the program is downloaded onto your computer, it may disconnect your Internet connection and reconnect to an international long distance phone number, at rates between $2 and $7 a minute. Be skeptical when you see opportunities to view "free" content on the web.

The FTC works for the consumer to prevent fraudulent, deceptive and unfair business practices in the marketplace and to provide information to help consumers spot, stop and avoid them. To file a complaint or to get free information on consumer issues, visit www.ftc.gov or call toll-free, 1-877-FTC-HELP (1-877-382-4357); TTY: 1-866-653-4261. The FTC enters Internet, telemarketing, identity theft and other fraud-related complaints into Consumer Sentinel, a secure, online database available to hundreds of civil and criminal law enforcement agencies in the U.S. and abroad.

FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION FOR THE CONSUMER
1-877-FTC-HELP www.ftc.gov

April 2002


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Posted By: Trainwire Re: SPAM SPAM SPAM!! SHOOT THE MFER! - 12/20/02 06:30 PM
Did anybody see this? http://www.freep.com/money/tech/mwend6_20021206.htm

Hopefully the house was not wired by an ECN member.

Steve
Posted By: SvenNYC Re: SPAM SPAM SPAM!! SHOOT THE MFER! - 12/20/02 07:45 PM
Maybe one of us with lots of time on his/her hands should try this method of messing with the African spammers' heads. [Linked Image]

This story is hilarious!!!
http://www.haxial.com/fraud/mikeaba.html
Posted By: C-H Re: SPAM SPAM SPAM!! SHOOT THE MFER! - 12/21/02 05:27 PM
Here is a page on Nigeria scams that should cover most of them.
http://home.pacbell.net/jpaladin/index.html

(Note: The author has an attitude problem and seems to be a "scammer" himself: "Nominated for Nobel prize". Yeah, right, there is no such thing. It takes one to know one?)
Posted By: pauluk Re: SPAM SPAM SPAM!! SHOOT THE MFER! - 12/21/02 08:19 PM
Remember the old adage: If it sounds too good to be true.....

I can't understand how anyone can fall for these Nigerian-Government-Official scams. Put yourself in the place of this supposed official who has millions of dollars to get out of the country.

Would you seriously transfer $35,000,000 (or whatever) to somebody in another country, whom you had never met, in the belief that that person will honor the agreement and give you your share back?

The deal always has to be kept from the prying eyes of other "officials" in various jurisdictions, so would you fire off an e-mail to someone, not knowing whether that person was sympathetic to your cause, or maybe even working for your corrupt Govt. or for some other agency, such as the CIA, FBI, MI5, etc.?

No, neither would I if it's that secret/important/dangerous!
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