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The floods are weatherproof, the switch doesn't have to be. Does it? I love it!!
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HIDEOUS! I don't know what to say to that one really, but at least the handi-box does not have all its knockouts smashed out of it and there isnt orange cabtire running between everything . All kidding aside, not only is that a violation, but I see one right where the conduit enters the W.P box for the lights.. Our AHJ would also ding this install for where the conduit enters the W.P box, and for that metal strap as well. Male adapters screwed into threaded openings tend to shear off and that strap will not allow for the pvc to move when it expands / contracts albeit its not going to do that here in this short run. A.D
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but I see one right where the conduit enters the W.P box for the lights.. Our AHJ would also ding this install for where the conduit enters the W.P box, What code section would the AHJ say you violated?
Bob Badger Construction & Maintenance Electrician Massachusetts
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Iwire: I will have to look it up, I have seen it in the CEC somewhere and have actually had to repair installs like that that were tagged by the AHJ, as the "proper" way of doing it was to use a female adapter and a nipple.
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12-1112(2) Fittings 12-3020 Outlet boxes, etc., in damp places 2-024 Use of approved equipment 2-108 Class of workmanship
I could add one about the strap being real tight but as it was already said, its a really short run.
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Why do they make male adapters if you can't use them.?? I can't use them because they "might " break. I see lots of violations but using a listed fitting doesn't seem to be one of them
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Wait a second! This the very definition of "arranged to drain". Any water that makes it into that WP box and conduit will thus be drained out of that handy box.
I hope for someone's sake that there's a good EGC solidly bonded to that handy box and switch.
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I don't see what the big deal is using male adaptors. The female adaptor/ close nipple method seems a bit unnecessary to me. Something like this would also require an expansion fitting, no?
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So help me out here, what CEC rule prohibits using a fitting for what it is intended for?
Bob Badger Construction & Maintenance Electrician Massachusetts
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Iwire, the only fitting in question is the pvc male that goes into the cast aluminum (raintight) box. CEC rule 12-1112 (2) states- Female threaded PVC or HFT adapters shall be used together with a metal conduit nipple to terminate at threaded conduit entries in metal enclosures.
The connection of the pvc to the improperly used/located 1110 box is good though.
[This message has been edited by RobbieD (edited 12-01-2006).]
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