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Thanks for the info Hotline...I'll ask one of the inspectors for details...heck, maybe have a clerk xerox a few pages for me.

Who would I ask?
Well, I guess I would ask the head cheese of the building dept. - we don't see eye to eye so I am already guessing the answer will be "NO".

John and Celtic,

I was told by more than 1 EC that even though the HVAC is a brand new system it is being installed in an "old" house (Even if the house is a year old). Therefore it falls under "Rehab". (This is their words not mine.) I have a call into DCA, but we keep playing telco tag. I believe that a new HVAC should follow the newest NEC and not fall under "rehab". However I might have to follow the DCA rules. I am waiting to see what their response is. When I get it, I will post here again.

Thanks for the info Hotline. I always wondered why the existing cu disconnect didn't need to be brought 'up to code'. It would seem appropriate to update the existing cu if 1 new cu was being added.

Harold:
That's bull. REPLACEMENT falls under rehab. Installing a NEW HVAC system (CU & A Coil/Furnace, or an air handler) requires conformance with current NEC.

Call Susan Borek at DCA, and get her 'opinion', but remember as AHJ it's your opinion that counts (& your lic.)

Shock:
No, the code is not retroactive. The 'new' work has to comply, NOT anything that is existing, unless you touch it.

John

[This message has been edited by HotLine1 (edited 05-31-2006).]

harold,
I cannot imagine how that install would even close resemble the intent of the rehab code (I think I just answered my own question - dam!).

John,

I called Suzanne and asked her aboutthe "Rehab" code and a brand new HVAC system. And YES! It does fall under the rehab code and a new receptacle is not required near the outside Comp. However that section of the rehab code is being changed. As of sometime in Aug./Sept. the rehab is going to change and it is going to make a new basement space fall under new work, a new HVAC, and new attic space will all fall under new work and all of the new NEC codes will be required. Just not yet! sigh! (This is as per the DCA not my words.)

Harold:
"Some change opinions as often as sox"......

OK, so as of your conversation, per the opinion you obtained, the GFI is NOT required within 25' of the Cu.

Once again, the gray areas of interpertation of the UCC 'SHALL' cause non-uniformity in the enforcement of the "Uniform" Construction Code.

John

the gray areas of interpertation of the UCC 'SHALL' cause non-uniformity in the enforcement of the "Uniform" Construction Code.

Is that a blue uniform? Oh were not talking about attire. Just what is uniform about the UCC. The IBC provides just as much uniformity as the UCC.

And they there is the NEC (national electrical code) adopted by what about 5 or 6 states without any additions or deletions.
Naturally we all interpret the NEC the same way on everything.

D:
The UCC is a compilation of rules, procedures, and regulations that are "The Law" (5:23 et seq.) in New Jersey for construction.
Administration.
Building
Electrical
Fire
Plumbing
Elevator
ADA
Asbestos/Lead Paint
Rehab
Amusement Rides
And a lot more

Within the UCC are 'amended' items of the NEC, Plumbing, Building, NFPA and other codes 'as adopted' by the State.

And, it's written mostly in legaleese, as it is law.

John