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If you really insist on doing this with romex, split out the neutrals in the fan/light and run 2 14-3s.
Greg Fretwell
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winnie: "For _non-metallic_ wiring systems, I do not belive that there is a _requirement_ that all conductors travel in the same raceway/cable assembly."
Yes, there is: 300.3(B)
gfretwell: That occurred to me, too, but it might not be acceptable to the AHJ. A lot of fan/light combos are connectorized, and separating the neutrals would require modifying the factory wiring.
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Every fan I have seen had the light as
an optional add on so there is a wirenut splice in there available to the installer.
Greg Fretwell
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I don’t see why this installation is so complicated. Use John’s method above (not my first choice)or bring the feed and switch legs to the fan in the same switch box. Then run 3 wire cables to the additional switches.
Greg, I agree that almost all fans have provisions for light kits but they use the same white wire as the fan. I don’t think I have ever seen a fan that has 2 white wires in the canopy.
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John, keep reading, until you get to "unless..." and to 300.3(B)(3).
gfret, that would require adding another wire from the fan's switch housing to the ceiling canopy; definitely not easy, and maybe not permissable.
Larry Fine
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How hard can it be to shove another wire down 6" of 1/2" pipe?
Bear in mind my first choice was to run a raceway (smurf) between the switches.
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Why would a raceway be needed between the switches?
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If he puts in a raceway he could run 4 travellers, a neutral and a ground, making this something that is more than "hold your nose" legal.
There are plenty of inspectors who would question this "travellers in 14-2 romex thing. You probably win in the end but you still get mud on your clothes.
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If you bring the feed and switch legs to the same box with dead end 3-ways this installation if perfectly legal. There is no reason to bring the grounded conductor to a dead end switch. Using this method 3 conductor cable should be used for each switch.
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