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You guys got me thinking, so I looked at my Hot Tub and its UL listed. Made by Saratoga Spas.
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Our state statutes require (with exceptions) all electrical componets to be NRTL listed. (I'm not saying I agree with it though)
ยง 66‑25. Acceptable listings as to safety of goods.
All electrical materials, devices, appliances, and equipment shall be evaluated for safety and suitability for intended use. This evaluation shall be conducted in accordance with nationally recognized standards and shall be conducted by a qualified testing laboratory. The Commissioner of Insurance, through the Engineering Division of the Department of Insurance, shall implement the procedures necessary to approve suitable national standards and to approve suitable qualified testing laboratories. The Commissioner may assign his authority to implement the procedures for specific materials, devices, appliances, or equipment to other agencies or bodies when they would be uniquely qualified to implement those procedures.
In the event that the Commissioner determines that electrical materials, devices, appliances, or equipment in question cannot be adequately evaluated through the use of approved national standards or by approved qualified testing laboratories, the Engineering Division of the Department of Insurance shall specify any alternative evaluations which safety requires.
The Engineering Division of the Department of Insurance shall keep in file, where practical, copies of all approved national standards and resumes of approved qualified testing laboratories. (1933, c. 555, s. 3; 1989, c. 681, s. 1.)
Our City even had a mobile MRI that had been used in many states from the east coast to the west, get a NRTL listing as an assembly before it could be used.
Roger
[This message has been edited by Roger (edited 06-03-2005).]
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I found it interesting that "Hot Springs", a heavily promoted brand, is not NRTL evaluated. They use Exponant labs, not on the list.
Greg Fretwell
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As I understand the position of some ---
If an electrictian on site assembles the hot tub electrical components from approved subassemblies, the hot tub gets inspected per local code.
If the same components are assembled by the hot tub manufacturer, the hot tub gets a red tag (unless agency approved).
I don't see a difference between the two methods of work. I expect those who do are asking for a law suit they cannot win.
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George,
What is different, between the two methods of work, is the on site wiring is done by a lic. electrician, and the delivered package unit is wired by spa employees, that may or may not be qualified, and may or may not have qualified supervision, a big difference.
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Joe Tedesco, NEC Consultant
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