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#85917 01/12/04 06:05 PM
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Pierre I do not know the specifics but we have custom fixtures made and the shop that makes them UL lists them.

Bjarney from above
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One-off fixture labeling is somewhat like labeling available to electric-sign builders, and subject to periodic unannounced inspections and record keeping for assembled products.

Maybe Bjarney can elborate on this. [Linked Image]


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#85918 01/12/04 06:52 PM
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I'm not certain that luminaires are required to be listed.

If they are listed, then 110.3(B) applies, of course.


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#85919 01/12/04 07:40 PM
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iwire — The intent of such a program is to be in lieu of a UL inspector examining and labeling each individual product that leaves the factory. UL Standard 1950 or 1958 would likely apply.




[This message has been edited by Bjarney (edited 01-12-2004).]

#85920 01/15/04 02:14 PM
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The saga continues...

I met today with state department of professional licensing and the owner, on site. The owner has recieved a class "A" misdemeanor and $1,000 fine. Jail time will be dependant upon how quickly the issue gets resolved.

EDIT: I took some pictures of the installation, but since they are pictures of energized lights they didn't turn out very well. I will try to touch them up and post them, if I can get any good ones.

[This message has been edited by Ryan_J (edited 01-15-2004).]


Ryan Jackson,
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#85921 01/15/04 10:14 PM
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Well guys...this is the best I could do as far as editing goes. This picture does no justice to the installation though. This is just a small section of the store, they actually had about 1,000 feet of this stuff strung out. [Linked Image]

Bill: If you want to try editing the pic, be my guest, I couldn't get it much better than this.


Ryan Jackson,
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#85922 01/15/04 11:35 PM
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Oh that is just beautiful, how much do they charge to eat at a construction site?

That looks like where I have "brown bagged" it many times, I did not know it was chic.

Do they have somebody cutting metal studs with a chop saw to complete the ambiance?

Ryan take out the temps, do they have lighting?

What lights where in place when you did the electrical final?

How are these tied in?


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#85923 01/16/04 10:38 AM
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Bob: The lights that were in at the final were just the lamps that are displayed. They have about 75% of the exterior wall that is glass, and they have provided emergancy lighting. With that in mind, I had to pass it.

How were they tied in? I'm glad you asked. I'll post a picture of that tonight. Basically, they were tied into a four square box via romex connector and no strain relief!


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#85924 01/16/04 04:33 PM
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Ah, yes, to echo Bob's comments, that's just beautiful. I think the picture turned out just fine. It's just as I envisioned it from your earlier descriptions! [Linked Image] [Linked Image] [Linked Image]

#85925 01/16/04 07:16 PM
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This is the way they were connected, Bob:
[Linked Image]

This was the only one that was in an area that I could get a picture. Many of them had extension rings, missing covers or much more strain on the cord. Also, there weren't very many connection...makes me wonder about how many Watts are on the circuit (continuos load) and also about voltage drop.


Ryan Jackson,
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#85926 01/17/04 12:10 AM
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Ryan: i been wondering why the owner dont want to spend $$ for using the HID's or HO's strip lumaires ??? i work in my area and all the open celeing that are plan to be "warehouse" style must have hid or flurosecent lumiares allready mounted instead of those whippy [BEEP] tempory lumaires [ i deleted one word you can add this if you want to ] therefore how much more the owner getting a idea to get around the inspection that is a bunch of bull... the owner will dealt with not only the electral inspectors as other inspectors as well as needed ..


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