ECN Forum Forums Code Related Discussion NEC & other Code issues Green or Green With Yellow Stripe for EGC Only!!

The CMP will need to change their mindset on the identification of the GEC.

See 1992 TCR proposal 5-206 on page 176.

We may not have access to that Glenn, what 'did' they say?

I have a hard time believing a CMP would entertain this obvious shortcut;

Can someone please tell me or give me a reason why everything to do with grounding or bonding including the GEC should not be allowed to be green or bare.

As Sparky points out, anybody that would not know the difference is more of a danger concerning other things, than not identifying a GEC correctly.

The time debated over indentifying different parts of a grounding and bonding system could be better spent elsewhere. IMHO

Roger

What was the committee's response to this submittal? I sure didn't pick up on the possibality of affecting the GEC.

I'm sure Phil did not mean for this article to affect the GEC articles. For the reasons he states, it is a good change.

Hopefully someone on the committee had the same insight that Joe, and others here, had about how this would affect the GEC. If not, then this is where one should make a comment on the proposals, which, I would think, is an option available to anyone here who wishes to.

Anyone know of the timeline for comments?

Rick Miell

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Thanks Glenn:

Here's your proposal.



Rick" Here is the schedule:

iwire,

I didn't think of that... It was just an idea. As I'm not in the United States, I'm not entitled to have an opinion on the NEC, really.

Well the same could be said for me C-H, but......

I second Roger's comment. Why not just specify that all grounding & bonding be green and that green shall not be used for any other purpose? That seems to be the logical approach to me.

Paul, you are familiar enough with the NEC to know that wouldn't be confusing enough to make it into the codebook !

“The proposed wording says that any conductor "identified as permitted" in this section shall only be used as an EGC. The use of a bare wire is permitted to identify an EGC, this will mean that bare conductors are no longer permitted to be used as grounding electrode conductors.”

I will disagree.

1) A completely bare conductor is not “identified” as in 250.119 A or B. They are referring to insulated conductors that are stripped bare for the entire EXPOSED length. To identify something you have to do something to it.

2) Nothing in the substantiation points to this. The intent is if it’s green or green w/ yellow stripe – it’s an EGC only.


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