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#82381 11/09/02 07:53 PM
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Don,

My proposal was returned today. Because it "deals with formatting and issues that are an NFPA staff function and responsibility" I guess that there are some suggestions that you cannot make?

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#82382 11/09/02 08:10 PM
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Bill, what is their definition of NFPA staff function and responsibility?

Is this implying that any question or suggestion that they deem is above our heads,or threatning to them, is not to be considered? [Linked Image]

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#82383 11/09/02 08:44 PM
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Bill,
Maybe those rules are in the NEC style manual and cannot be changed by a proposal to the NEC itself. I don't think that the style manual can be changed by anyone except the NFPA, but am not sure.
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#82384 11/09/02 08:58 PM
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Don,

I was wondering that myself. It did state that they would take it into consideration though.

I did not know if it was something that could be proposed or not, but really thought it was a good idea and was looking forward to comments on it. Maybe you guys can tell me what you think as it will not make it to the ROPs;
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Indent Exceptions under 210.8(A)(2) and elsewhere in the NEC where the Exceptions pertain only to the List item directly above it.  

Substantiation:
I believe that there could easily be some confusion here (and some other locations in the NEC) as to what (specifically) Exceptions are meant to apply to. According to 2.6.1 in the 2001 NEC Style Manual Exceptions shall immediately follow the main rule to which they apply. In this example (and others) the item before the Exception is a 'List Item' and by definition only an item necessary to complete a rule. (not the Rule itself) see 2.1.5.1 and Example following 2.1.5.3 in 2001 NEC Style Manual. Indenting Exceptions below specific list items that they apply to will ensure that it is not confused with other situations where Exceptions may apply to several List items above it, as in the Exceptions following 210.6(D)(2)FPN. I believe that this modification will help to clarify the document as a whole and be more consistant with basic principles of Composition and Outline structure.  


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#82385 11/09/02 11:51 PM
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Bill,
I think that your idea would help make it clear what the exceptions apply to. It is a good idea.
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#82386 11/10/02 07:35 AM
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Clarity is always appreciated, presumably condusive to the safety sought.

Bill, i remember the thread, and thought it prudent to inquire via ROP.

Howevere, is 'formating' a TCC function here?

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