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We have been experimenting with a metal plate that fits over the device. It enables us to instal the device before the drywall is installed. The drywallers are complaining because the plate is breaking the bits on there roto zips.
(I feel so sorry for them.
No one asked us when they started using the roto zip!)

I have had my share of drywaller problems. The job I am on now is a new 20,000 sq.ft. church and I can't say enough good things about the crew that hung this job. I used 4x4 boxes with mudrings and they were all cut out perfectly with none covered up! They nicked the wires in 5 ceiling boxes but they marked them with red masking tape and came and told me about each one. I bragged on them every day to the GC and to the finishers that hired them. I also told a couple of other GCs that were looking for hangers. They heard about what I was saying and I've got rocker buddys for life. I think that it's fine to hammer the hacks as long as you let the good ones know they are appreciated.

Harold
Like your sledge hammmer but i have always used a double bittted ax when i tell them that is how i'll find covered over boxes.
Most of the time I do not bother the general for one or two boxes. Just find em and go on. 13 would get a change/ extra work order signed before finish.
last job the drywallers stunk. change orders because of his no speak english sloppys increased the job by 35%.

I just tell GC's goof plates are $5 each....

Making the floor is a good idea.
To help locate a box that was covered over, I use a 2' level (any straight edge will do) to help find the "bulge" in the wall.
Then measure up from the floor to locate the bottom of the box (that's how I set them) and take a stab with a thin bladed screwdriver. Most of the time I hit them dead on. For the few that I don't I just tell the finish crew it needs to be fixed (I usually have a few others that need to be fixed as they made a hole you could drive a truck through).
As for having the drywallers find the hidden boxes, I'd rather do it myself.
I hate fixing nicked or chopped off wires - I have a word for the drywall (OK sheetrock for the more senior members) hangers - set the depth gauge on the rotozip!

If you set the depth, then you can't cut the openings with you head turned around to talk to Ralph while u smoke a cigarette.

coincidentally today, a self-proclaimed GC, rocker, painter, concrete form & carpenter asked me what i was holding.....

it was a mud ring oye!

what gets me is these sorts charge top $$$ to an unsuspecting public.

This gets better I finally got all the jumbo plates and still 5 boxes still show sheetrockers great work and to take the cake the contractor told me to get some calk.Also the trim rings for my can lites have a gap all the way around...6" cans I told the GC that this was unexceptable.I only guess the sheetrocker was his wife or brother he got offended by me trashing the workmanship of his crew. When I showed him 314.21 his reply was thats in the electrical code so you should fix it.I hit the roof....go figure.One thing, I hate to put my name on this panel box.

So go buy a tube of black or bronze caulk and smear it around the box

Use non-paintable silicone. That will fix em! The part that stinks about this is since it is at a receptacle box somehow it's your fault. From what you describe here I would not install the devices or the recessed trims untill they fix THEIR mess.
*Mongoose*