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Hey Bill
Sorry I did not get back to you about the 6' rule. California follows the NEC for residential receptacle spacing but it is possible San Diego has a local amendment that requires receptacles more often but I doubt it. As Electricmanscott some people have a hard time understanding what the NEC means by requiring no point along the floor line farther that 6' from a receptacle but I think all of us here know that this means one receptacle every 12'.
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Bill, I was in San diego until 2 years ago, the standard was at that time 1 outlet every 12' I think the GC maybe mis-interpreting the 6' rule.
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Thanks for all the replies. Electure (Scott) has sent along a photo to illustrate the type of all-in-one that is common out in CA. ![[Linked Image]](https://www.electrical-contractor.net/Forum/Images/FPE_Service.JPG) Here's a picture of the "all in one" combination service that was discussed in this thread. Meter, main, and branch breakers in one enclosure. (Only problem here is that this one's a Stablok) BTW, I've never worked on, or ever seen, a house here in CA that had the 6' recp spacing that was mentioned, except for one room addition that was done by a homeowner.
Bill, I hope to be able to "come out and play" at ECN again soon.
Thanks and keep up the great work!!
Scott Thank You Scott! ![[Linked Image]](https://www.electrical-contractor.net/ubb/smile.gif)
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We use something similair around here on REC(rural homes), there is a main and usually breakers for the well and several outbuildings.
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if I remember correctly you had inquired about our exterior, surface mounted meter mains - I am attaching some photos... this is not a meter main/combo (which is virtually identical) - but it shows the type of installation done here for upgrades.
This particular installation was an upgrade from a 4-meter main to a 5-meter main ... owner added a laundry room for this 4 plex and was required to have a separate meter for the 'house' panel (when we pulled the 4-meter main out of the little cabinet on the right we installed a new house panel in that space).
The second photo shows how we tied into the service drop so as to not interrupt power while we waited (10 days) for the utility to come out and make their reconnections.
- David ![[Linked Image]](https://www.electrical-contractor.net/Forum/Images/CA_5-socketmeter-main.JPG) ![[Linked Image]](https://www.electrical-contractor.net/Forum/Images/CA_5-socketmeter-main1.JPG)
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Here on the sc coast, and we are basically at sea level, nema 3 rated devices just dont cut it with the salt air.I have changed many meter guts due to corrosion from salt. Imagine what the service calls would be like if the load centers's were outside.They are however starting to require main discos. on the outside for fire reasons, that SER cable aint cheap..
As for the 6 foot rule; my understanding is that along any interior wall there should be no more than a 6 foot difference at any point along the floor between receptales.Most lamps or appliances have a 6 foot whip, so if you are 12 feet between recepts. you can plug them in without the use of an extension cord, anywhere between the plugs.
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I think we New Yorkers may be too paranoid to put mains outside the house.
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I gotta’ toss in this bit of gossip on salt air and electrical stuff—in Newport, central-coast Oregon, the utility hangs overhead transformers in real gnarley stainless-steel cans. They are cool! {...and apparently not all that pricey.} [Good Job, Steve.]
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Here's another picture and info sent to me: Thanks Curt! ![[Linked Image]](https://www.electrical-contractor.net/Forum/Images/WestCoast_Panels.jpg) This picture shows a 200 amp 20-40 circuit combination service entrance panel designed primarily for underground feed but has a tunnel kit installed in the left corner that allows for the service conductors to enter through the top. The tunnel kit has screws that hold it into place located in the underground pull section so once the utility install its seals the tunnel can not be removed.
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Go here https://www.electrical-contractor.net/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000161.html for some pics of what the all-in-one looks like from behind. These are bad examples of workmanship but you get the idea of how conduit and circuits enter. [This message has been edited by CTwireman (edited 08-21-2002).]
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