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#81106 07/14/02 11:41 AM
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So, should I submit a request for change, or do we want to keep a little flexibility here?


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#81107 07/14/02 01:05 PM
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If there was no spec in any plans for it to be in a specific location and you installed it next to the sink which is standard and they wanted ii moved somewhere else and you moved it.......whew! I would absolutely submit a change order. You should be paid for ANY work you do. Remember, the reason you are in business is to make money. And from my experience the GC is none to shy about making money off you as you should not be shy about getting paid for your work. Another view would be if this is maybe the only hiccup through the job and you are making a profit let it go. It can be good for your reputation. Just don't be taken advantage of.

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#81108 07/14/02 01:32 PM
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Too late on the change order... Work cannot commence until a written change order is approved, and I already fixed it.

Let me reword my last Q...

So, should I submit a request for change for 210.52(D) to specify "above", or do we want to keep a little flexibility here?


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#81109 07/17/02 07:58 PM
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iam no expert but i had nec codes class last year and from what i remember and how i read it the receptacle is placed within 3ft of the edge of the basin, this means measure away from the basin horizontally and within 3ft you have to put the outlet. i was told at the time of the class it should be counter height. typically the outlet is installed around the basin level no women in a powder room wants to bend over to the floor to plug in all her beauty equipment. i

#81110 07/17/02 08:26 PM
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What does the (AHJ) inspector say?

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So, should I submit a request for change for 210.52(D) to specify "above", or do we want to keep a little flexibility here?

Why not? , at the very least, you'll get some sort of substaintation as to current practice.

[This message has been edited by sparky (edited 07-17-2002).]

#81112 07/18/02 12:06 AM
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electrician02125,
No local inspector has authority over it here, just a moral/cover-my-assets type of thing.

Sparky, how do I use the search engine in that link?

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#81113 07/18/02 08:34 AM
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http://forums.nfpa.org:8081/pcsubmit/pcsrch.html

Enter the document number 70 and hit search for NFPA 70 ................

Go ahead and submit the proposal, and if it gets rejected then you'll have your answer in the panel comment that will include a technical reason for the rejection.

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#81114 07/18/02 09:17 AM
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Thanks Joe!

Here's what I submitted:

210.52(D) Bathrooms. In dwelling units, atleast one wall receptacle outlet shall be installed in bathrooms within 900mm (3 ft), measured horizontally, of the outside edge of each basin. The receptacle outlet shall be located on a wall or partition that is adjacent to the basin or basin countertop and shall be above the basin or basin countertop.

The original paragraph may be interpreted to allow the receptacle to be mounted lower than the basin or basin countertop, which would increase the likelihood of extension cords being used with hairdryers and other bathroom electrical equipment.

Also, it is unclear if the three foot distance is measured horizontally or in a direct line.


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kudos' to Kelly Electric!

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