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How about: "Wiring that is not being used, but is in good enough condition to be used in the future, shall be tied to equipment ground inside the circuit breaker panel and inside junction boxes, etc. Wiring that is no longer suitable for service shall be removed where practical, or if not, tagged and tied to equipment ground."

Tieing unused wires to ground should minimize the "unused hot wire" problem. And would supplement the equipment ground.

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Great Idea!

Rip the old stuff out!

This issue is a severe one, and should be a rule.

Recent messages here in another post were reviewed by many and some had useful comments, and others made comments and tried to talk between the lines with words that were not clear making no sense whatsoever!

Say what you mean, instead of trying to dance around the subject!


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..The issue regarding lead in the old pvc jackets is an alarming one...as is stated in the link,appropriate clothing and counter measures are to be taken..that sounds pretty serious...I wonder, does NM wire have the same lead-based pvc covering,and in time will it too deteriorate???

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In sparky’s reference, Salimando’s characterization of “…souvenirs from generations of tenants…” is just perfect. Too, this aspect of electrical work should carry it’s own version of “neat and workmanlike.”

Passed away since, Joe Roohan, a senior code-enforcement person from the LA area, used to pose to others [in IAEI meetings] the question, “How in the hell do you enforce ‘neat and workmanlike’”?

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