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Ah, I hadn't thought of that.
I was thinking along the lines of a single dedicated recept. for the washer, but if it's an easily accessible duplex it makes sense.
Either way it's better than the 90% of washers with 3kW heaters in them here on a general purpose ring.
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Paul, Here's a quote; ('99 NEC) 210-52(f)Laundry Areas. In dwelling units, at least one receptacle outlet shall be installed for the laundry
And in 210-11(c)(2) Laundry Branch Circuits. ... at least one additional 20-ampere branch circuit shall be provided to supply the laundry receptacle outlet(s) ... They seem to allow for more than one receptacle in that area on the 20A circuit if desired. Bill
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Paul,
Up here, the most common laundry configuration is a separate washer and a gas fired clothes dryer side by side. Propane or natural gas, just a 120 volt motor to spin the drum. A 20 amp circuit and a duplex receptacle and that completes the electrical part of the total laundry installation.
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Bill,
With washers (and to only a slightly lesser degree dryers) now almost universal in British homes, I'd like to see our regs. changed to specify a separate circuit or each. I can't thimk why it wasn't specified years ago.
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Gas dryers are becoming available here, but they're still rare, even in homes where heating, water, and cooking are all gas.
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P.S. I'll post some notes on our usage of washers, dryers, and dishwashers in the Non-U.S. section.
[This message has been edited by pauluk (edited 12-16-2001).]
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Bill:
Yes the term "outlets" will allow them to be in that area for use with an ironing board, etc.
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Or to as many 'laundry rooms' as wished.
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Some notes from a British perspective now posted in non-U.S. area, as promised.
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Paul, My GUESS is that, since the IEE prohibits portable appliances in bathrooms, it wouldn't be feasible to install washers and dryers..just too inconvenient without using cord and plug attachments. Also, there is the need to bond conductive surfaces and the 0.4 sec. fault clearing time--which might not be workable with fixed laundry appliance circuits?
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Yes, there'd be a need for extra cross-bonding and the 0.4 sec. disconnect requirement might necessitate the use of an RCD (GFI), but there's nothing in the IEE Regs. to specifically prohibit the installation of a washer or dryer.
The only prctical restriction I can see here is that some bathrooms are just physically too small to achieve the required 2m (6' 6") separation from the tub.
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True enough, Paul..nothing in the IEE. I'm still stuck on the issue of cord and plug attachment. Have you looked into the idea that there might be a UK manufacturing stipulation that washers and dryers have to be attached 'cord and plug'. If so, then there would be a solid reason for the lack of laundry appliances in bathrooms. I'm from the States and I don't know what publications you have to deal with over there..I only have the '81 edition of IEE (from a trip to the UK 10 yrs ago).
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