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#77693 07/25/01 11:55 PM
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I still get blank looks when asking for the availability of AFCI's at my local supplier. I can only hope they will have them by the year's end...

I fear that houses I'm working on now may not get the final punchout until 1-1-02...
I've been careful to wire all bedrooms circuits so that adding AFCI's will be easy.

I've been successful in my sales pitch of AFCI's (got a rewire coming up...the owner likes the idea... especially on any circuits we can't replace...) but I need to follow up...

Heck...I don't even know what they'll cost here!


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#77694 07/26/01 12:10 AM
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You could resort to ordering them off the Internet.

#77695 07/26/01 12:13 AM
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'66,

Do you think that will be enforced where you are? I mean that AFCIs' will be required on work done now but not Final inspected until after 1-1-02 ?

Bill


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#77696 07/26/01 12:39 AM
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Even if it isn't enforced, he wants to be able to say that he complied with Code so he isn't liable if a house ever burns down after he was there.

#77697 07/26/01 01:12 AM
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The problem arises when the original quote did not allow several hundred dollars for AFCI's and special wiring practices.

Bill


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#77698 07/26/01 01:35 AM
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>special wiring practices.
What do you mean by that beyond what he has already done?

#77699 07/26/01 01:58 AM
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First thing that comes to mind would be not using 3 wire cables.
More wire, More Time, = More $$


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#77700 07/26/01 07:52 AM
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I've been careful to wire all bedrooms circuits so that adding AFCI's will be easy.


Now I'm lost...

3 wire...?

I'm confused here...

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For this job I'd like to offer as an upgrade with the extra $$$ to go with it.

I only want to convince my supplier to start carrying them, I guess...

In fact, I just left a lengthly message on the manager's voice mail concerning same...

Hey, it's their job!

[This message has been edited by sparky66wv (edited 07-26-2001).]


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#77701 07/26/01 10:26 AM
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Virgil,

What I meant by the 3 wire mention is that the AFCI Breakers are only single pole breakers. Can they work on a Multiwire circuit? (SP GFCIs' can't) You'd have to run individual circuits.

BTW, I just asked my local AHJ this morning about enforcement on this subject and They will be going by installation date, not final inspection date.

Bill


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#77702 07/26/01 05:04 PM
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>AFCI Breakers are only single pole breakers.
Cutler-Hammer offers 15 & 20 A SP & DP in types BR and CH.

>Can they work on a Multiwire circuit?
SP, no. DP, I hope so!
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