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inspectors are requiring GFCI protection on laundry room receptacles, and on sump pump receptacles before they will issue a occupancy permit.
Yea!!!!!!!!!!!
>I think there may be enough stray leakage current from some of these motors to cause nuisance tripping, and in the case of the sump pump, a major problem developing when the pump loses power when its needed most.
I think you are wrong. Don't put more than two devices on a single GFCI. Put the sump on a dedicated GFCI that cannot get wet - ever.
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Redsy,
I would be inclined to think that there may be some problem with the sump pump or it's supply cord. Perhaps a closer inspection would reveal something.
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Originally posted by Dspark:
I am afraid that the moisture at the sump pump motor, not at the GFCI itself will cause the GFCI to trip and render a sump pump useless. I would prefer to mount a single receptacle (not duplex)dedicated for the sump pump behind it(inaccessible for general use) and skip the GFCI.[b]inspectors are requiring GFCI protection on laundry room receptacles, and on sump pump receptacles before they will issue a occupancy permit.
Yea!!!!!!!!!!!
>I think there may be enough stray leakage current from some of these motors to cause nuisance tripping, and in the case of the sump pump, a major problem developing when the pump loses power when its needed most.
I think you are wrong. Don't put more than two devices on a single GFCI. Put the sump on a dedicated GFCI that cannot get wet - ever.[/B]
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Originally posted by Bill Addiss:
Redsy,
I would be inclined to think that there may be some problem with the sump pump or it's supply cord. Perhaps a closer inspection would reveal something.
Bill,
No particular application in mind. Just an overall concern that the pump may not perform when needed.
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Redsy,
Perhaps, depending on location and other factors, they may allow a single receptacle that is non-GFCI protected. I believe that the code would permit this.
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today's basic electrical rules, water & people = GFI do not necessarily apply across the board. some of this, as far as NEC rules, makes sense to me, some does not. some , i suspect, are simply awaiting the Darwinian factor to come about. ![[Linked Image]](https://www.electrical-contractor.net/ubb/smile.gif)
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So let your sump trickle away milliamps all day. Waste energy. Have a higher bill.
Sump pumps are very expensive. Ones that are electrically sound are even more expensive. Just put in a dedicated outlet and leave it there until it leaks bad enough to blow the circuit breaker.
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Redsy,
Sorry, I didn't see that you had mentioned the single receptacle already. All this quoting and Bold lettering is a bit confusing. Have you tried suggesting it to them or expressed your concern?
I would see no reason to agree with them about the Laundry room receptacles. It makes things safer and tripping would cause no harm. As far as the Sump Pump goes I can see your point but it is a tossup as far as which is the lesser of 2 evils. Bottom line though is that it's their call. A GFCI could save a life. With nuisance tripping the most likely worst case outcome would be property damage. That may be the way that they're seeing it.
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Originally posted by Bill Addiss:
Redsy,
Sorry, I didn't see that you had mentioned the single receptacle already. All this quoting and Bold lettering is a bit confusing. Have you tried suggesting it to them or expressed your concern?
I would see no reason to agree with them about the Laundry room receptacles. It makes things safer and tripping would cause no harm. As far as the Sump Pump goes I can see your point but it is a tossup as far as which is the lesser of 2 evils. Bottom line though is that it's their call. A GFCI could save a life. With nuisance tripping the most likely worst case outcome would be property damage. That may be the way that they're seeing it.
Bill Bill, I never debate the issue with the twp. I just do what they require. I just thought it was an interesting issue.
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Redsy,
What's "twp" stand for?
I agree it's an interesting issue. I'm not sure which way I'd want to go on that. It would depend on where the pump is I guess and the likelihood of it being needed.
I will always try not to put a Refrigerator or Freezer on a GFCI because I've seen many instances where power surges and such have caused a GFCI to trip. I wouldn't want it to happen while I was away on vacation. I guess it's a calculated risk at best.
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