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#67072 06/29/06 12:52 PM
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quote"However, the big question would be: why does anyone need an outlet there anyway??? A ceiling light or wall sconce should be well enough."

I get to put them in all the time in situations like this. Thats because I do lots of work for folks with ties to Japan. They all really seem to love having an electric toilet seat that sings them a little song, and heats up when in use. I stick in a gfi , collect my dough and beam over to the next job....

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I too will ditto that it is a "Water Closet", by victorian terms...

But by the NEC version, it would have to have a basin...
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Bathroom. An area including a basin with one or more of the following: a toilet, a tub, or a shower.

However the commentary to 210.8 (Not considered CODE.... And subject to interpetation.) defines it slightly differently
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A bathroom is defined in Article 100 as an area that includes a basin with one or more of the following: a toilet, a tub, or a shower. The term applies to the entire area, whether a separating door, as illustrated in Exhibit 210.9, is present or not.
Shows a tub and toilet in seperate area, from the basin. But also doesn't show outlets in there either.


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#67074 06/29/06 09:30 PM
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Shows a tub and toilet in seperate area, from the basin. But also doesn't show outlets in there either.


Does it ever occur to you that NFPA does this on purpose to ensure the need for another Proposal/ROP/ROC cycle and another batch of books you have to buy?
Call it job security.

[This message has been edited by gfretwell (edited 06-29-2006).]


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Luckily the code cycle around here only seems to change every 6 years or so... 93-99 And in 2005 we went to 2002.... [Linked Image]


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#67076 06/29/06 11:05 PM
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Hey Rad,

Maybe I should have put a weatherproof cover on it!

#67077 06/30/06 08:10 AM
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You're joking, but last summer I was looking into a job with the Orient Express company, and one of the cars did have a Swiss 220V receptacle conveniently behind the toilet bowl!
We joked about killing the feed but leaving the receptacle in place, adding a huge warning sticker to improve the aim [Linked Image] [Linked Image] [Linked Image]

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