1 members (Scott35),
486
guests, and
11
robots. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,429
Member
|
No, i havent used a screw driver for a chisel ever since a mechanic buddy, lost sight from his left eye, and all he could say was, how could i be so stuped.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 1,457
Member
|
C'mon, you guys mean to tell me that you don't pull staples with your diagonals, or chip plaster or lathe with your screwdrivers, when you are doing rehab work.
I certainly do these things. But I do not complain about the poor quality of the tool when I am using it in such a dopey way. Now just occured to me can anyone reccomend a good car? I have been buying Toyotas but they get all smashed up when I use them for brick wall demo.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 5,445 Likes: 3
Cat Servant Member
|
Trumpy- you may not have the selection in the islands that we have here in "the Great Department Store" A number of companies offer lineman's pliers that have additional features, such as a dedicated crimping die on the handle side of the hinge. This die is use for wires no larger than #10. I think that's what the man was referring to.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,391
Moderator
|
A number of companies offer lineman's pliers that have additional features, such as a dedicated crimping die on the handle side of the hinge. This die is use for wires no larger than #10. Strictly speaking we can't use that crimper unless it is listed for the crimps we are crimping. Take a look at the UL white book WIRE CONNECTORS AND SOLDERING LUGS (ZMVV)
INSTALLATION INSTRUCTIONS Use of specific tools — A specific tool and die used to assemble a wire connector to a conductor is identified on the connector, or on or within the unit container of the connector. The identification consists of a catalog or type designation, color coding, die index number, or equivalent means. Color coding of the crimp barrel is common. This applies to the large crimps like we all expect but it also applies to crimps down to 30 AWG. [This message has been edited by iwire (edited 01-03-2006).]
Bob Badger Construction & Maintenance Electrician Massachusetts
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,143
Member
|
+1 for the Klein 2000 series "Journeyman" dikes. Great for trimming off the pointy tips of nails that always seem to be where youre box is going, or for trimming can light brackets.
(Of course, I haven't had a chance to play with the Knipex, but, if they're like the other Knipex stuff I've seen, as rated fr\or steel cutting, you'll be OK with either)
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 8,443 Likes: 3
Member
|
Reno, A number of companies offer lineman's pliers that have additional features, such as a dedicated crimping die on the handle side of the hinge. This die is use for wires no larger than #10. I think that's what the man was referring to. Yes, I was also referring to this. My blue-handled Klein (#12098) lineman's pliers have a sort of a crimping die in them, but we are told here they are only to be used as a last resort.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 173
Member
|
When talking about ground crimps, the Ideal crimp sleeves are approved to be crimped with their Linemans. They have the exact same crimper as the Kleins. The instructions say so.
Speedy Petey
"Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new." -Albert Einstein
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,391
Moderator
|
Pete does the package of Ideal crimps say that you can use Kliens or is that your opinion based on how they look?
Hey I know this is extreme hog wash but I am just the messenger of the rule we should all be following.
IMO this level of 'listing' is brought on by lawyers and is really unnecessary.
Bob
Bob Badger Construction & Maintenance Electrician Massachusetts
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 2,876
Member
|
"IMO this level of 'listing' is brought on by lawyers and is really unnecessary."
Here I was thinking it was the manufacturers that pushed this tripe, so they can get you to use thier tool for thier product. Not sure about this, but I believe Phillips sold a license to anyone using the phillips design for screws and thier respective drivers in the early days of them. FYI Robertson predates Phillips and both were invented for the auto industry...
Mark Heller "Well - I oughta....." -Jackie Gleason
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,391
Moderator
|
I really do not know, I was guessing.
You could be right.
Bob Badger Construction & Maintenance Electrician Massachusetts
|
|
|
Posts: 43
Joined: September 2013
|
|
|
|