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First- if you want to be treated as a professional- can the name calling!

Klein has done quite a bit to cause this confusion. Their "200" series tools....tools with part numbers such as "216" are not particularly hard, and will be damaged by steel.
Klein's "2000" series, on the other hand, have harder jaws, that ought to stand up to staples. Dito for the "Journeyman" series.

C'mon, you know everybody does that. I'm not talking about chopping brick or block.

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Also aggree that Knipex are the bees knees, just better made than Klien IMO. Lighter in the pouch and such.

And, also agree with Electricmanscott, right tool for the job and such, et cetera.

Has anyone used a cats paw lately? Usually I can get a staple out pretty easy, with no damage to the cable with one.

Why not? I chisel soft brick with an old screwdriver.

Either the Klein 2000 series, or better yet Knipex.
I like Knipex much better, only thing I don't use is their linesmans. They do not offer any version with a crimper. At least one I can find.
I also use mostly Wera, Witte, or Wiha screwdrivers. They are FAR superior to Klein or most any others.
German made tools rock!

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Speedy, I agree on the screwdrivers. Everytime I replace one of my Klines it gets replaced with a Wiha or Wera.

Yes. My experience with Klein's Phillips screwdrivers has not been good.

The iron they're made out of seems to be too soft and they strip out pretty quickly. And yes, guys, I do use the properly sized driver for the screw.

Amazingly, I replaced my stubby #2 Klein with a #2 Stubby branded Husky - also made in USA.

The finish seems to be quite precise and the point hasn't stripped out on me yet.

And yes, it does get quite a lot of use.

Y'know, at my shop we have a mandatory safety meeting every Friday AM and the most frequent subject is tool selection and the proper use of proper tools. I don't meen Klein vs. Knipex or like that, but rather things like chisels are chisels and screwdrivers are.. well, you know. The point is, just because everyone uses a screwdriver as a chisel doesn't make it a good argument for doing so. There are many photos of guys doing ridiculous things with ladders and scaffolding in the Violation and Photo forums too, but that doesn't mean those things are recomended. If you pull staples with non hardened dykes you get dull dykes. That's operator error no matter how many people keep doing it.

We use THESE for pulling staples, you just grab one leg of the staple with the blades and pull down or up to remove it, it works great! and since they don't have to be sharp to pull the staples it doesn't matter if they get dull since they don't have to be sharp to do their job. I also agree with E.M. Scott

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C'mon, you guys mean to tell me that you don't pull staples with your diagonals, or chip plaster or lathe with your screwdrivers, when you are doing rehab work.

Speedy Petey,
No way would I ever use the "crimping" part of the jaws in pliers to crimp lugs.
That's what they make crimp tools for.
Nope, and I don't intend to start now either.
Part of being a professional tradesman is proper selection, use and care of the tools of the trade.



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