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#59483 12/06/05 07:40 PM
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What is your spin on Green wirenuts? i think using them in single-gang boxes is fine because the wirenut only allows 1 equipment ground out of the top to attach to 1 device. Now in a 2,3,4, or even 5 gang, Using a green wirenut seems rediculous if all devices must be grounded. What happened to those copper crimp sleeves, that made finishing a house so nice?!!!

#59484 12/06/05 07:54 PM
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The green work fine, leave the one coming out the top long enough to hit each device.


Bob Badger
Construction & Maintenance Electrician
Massachusetts
#59485 12/06/05 09:09 PM
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I personally only use the green wirenuts, I hate the crimp rings. Just pigtail out the bottom how ever many grounds you need but stay within the capacity of the wirenut.
Ron

#59486 12/06/05 11:07 PM
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In my home I have avoided anything more than 2 gang in most places, just to avoid that "need a map to turn on the light" problem. In the one big box I ended up with I used one of the #10 tapped holes for a 6 hole ground bus kit. Then I used #12 stranded pigtails with terminals for all the devices. It made a very easy install. This was piped in so all the conductors were stranded with terminals. (lots of colors too)


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#59487 12/07/05 10:36 AM
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I do waht I-wire does: leave that one conductor from the wirenut long enough to daisy-chain the grounding screws.


Larry Fine
Fine Electric Co.
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#59488 12/07/05 08:11 PM
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Greenies work great, but I see more people screw them up than I do who install them correctly.

With 2 #14s, just twisting the greenie on does almost nothing as far as twisting your wires together and leaves a really poor splice.

And for the love of god, leave enough wire so that if the splice has to be remade, you don't need to jam a pair of needle-nose into the box just to hold your conductors together.

-John

#59489 12/07/05 08:28 PM
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I think Greenies are nice, but a waste of money, and one more part to keep separated in the parts bag. I use tan wirenuts for 99% of my splices, the reds, grays or blues only when necessary, yellows very seldom. (And, of course, the oranges for fixtures.)


Earl
#59490 12/08/05 12:38 AM
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I'm a crimper. Greenies are OK for one gang boxes, but I prefer to use small crimps and leave out as many tails as the gang of the box.


I use to daisy chain a long ground but have grown to dislike that method and have been crimping for years.


Speedy Petey

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#59491 12/08/05 07:24 AM
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I hate the damn things. There, that was easy [Linked Image]

#59492 12/08/05 10:09 AM
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I never used them, becasue as a commercial installer my EGC's were insulated, and I don't like the idea of having bare conductors longer than needed. If I were doin residential, however, I would have used them.


Ryan Jackson,
Salt Lake City
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