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#58980 11/25/05 03:37 AM
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Bob, I don't do take out, but these guys do.... However, not sure it would make it the east coast in a fresh satisfactory manner.
http://panchovillasf.com/page/o5wx/Home_Page.html
One of the best... (If you're in town...)

FYI, the way I described it above is pretty close to what you would find called nachos in most taqueria shops SF to SD. (With slightly different marinades for meats, and a few other vaiations) Once past TJ mexico, one would be hard pressed to find "Nachos" the way we think of them. The closest would be a "taco", which would be an open soft white corn tortilla piled high with the same stuff, and usually served with chips on the side... Nachos and Burritos are pretty much american foods, and vary wildly across the country too. (Even pizza as we know it is an american fast food creation.) Apparently nachos were first thrown together in haste in San Antonio TX in the 40's, and ultimately popularized by Howard Cosell of "Monday Night Football" in 1977. http://sabatos.net/nachos.php
Personnaly I think the Texas, or Football version is well... Cheesy! Usually consisting of way too much cheese (Or canned cheese sauce... ehu!), and little if any meat, and way too heavy on condiments. I preffer the California Taqueria version.

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I didn't realize it at the time but all I was doing was spraying my whole house with mace basically.
You do know that they REALLY do make Mace from them right?

Heres a short list of Habinero and other pepper mis-haps from yours truly:

Make Hot Wings - inflict chemical burns on your freinds!
Make more Hot Wings - Use restroom, and inflict chemical burns on self! (Wash hands before using restroom!)
Make Mole (Too Hot) - Destroy romantic weekend with girlfriend who is on toilet for almost 48 hours. (Girl was from Texas, and once bragged that "It's not food unless it hurts!" - never heard her say that again!)
Eat a whole chily with seeds - not on dare, ever again.

Still like food that makes my eyes sweat!


Mark Heller
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#58981 11/25/05 09:33 AM
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No.1 rule of spicy foods: If it dosen't make your sinuses run, it's not hot enough.

#58982 11/25/05 12:53 PM
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Curcumin and turmeric, common ingredients in Asian curry recipes, have shown tentative positive results in the prevention of certain cancer tumors.

Google "curry cancer" for a raft of articles, US/UK.

Alan


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#58983 11/27/05 04:21 PM
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These would add alittle spice to your nachos. These are the hottest peppers I've ever grown. I like spicy food, enough to break a sweat but these are killer. The seeds came from Johnnys seeds in Maine and are called paper lantern peppers. Notice the snow outside [Linked Image]

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#58984 11/28/05 02:44 AM
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e57 -

"You do know that they REALLY do make Mace from them right?"

(I must have entirely too much free time, but here goes)

"Mace" is a brand name of personal protection spray first marketed in 1965 by General Ordinance Equipment. The original Mace used CN gas (chloracetophenone)and "may" have used CS gas (O-Chlorobenzyolidenemalonitrile). Both of these are very irritant to the mucus membranes. "Pepper" gas does in fact us OC (Oleoresin Capsicum) and is faster acting and has a more immediate effect, even on persons that may be under the influance of substances.

Having had to train with these gases while in the Marines, and having been the receiver of these fine products (so we would know what it was like, thank you very much...may I have another), the peper spray is (to me) the worse (though DM gas [a vomiting agent] is no walk in the park, but that is another story entirely).

For those who might like to know.

Steve


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#58985 11/28/05 07:33 AM
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A handy item to have when cooking with habaneros is a tea ball like this:

[Linked Image]


You can put the pepper inside, get the flavor in your dish, and not have your guests run out screaming because they got a piece of meat or a seed.


Gloves, You bet!! I've pulled up habanero plants that have been dead for 6 months barehanded...nothing but dried up stems. My eyes burned like crazy, my fingers got numb, and I could taste them in my mouth.

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I had a haberñero come up wild here. I usually like hot stuff so I gave it a try. The meat was OK but the seeds were dog nutz.

I don't have a clue how it got started and I couldn't get another one going from the seeds but it was some hot pepper.


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skingusmc, I was an E3(1142), with a billet of Training NCO, (Which meant I was the guy inside the gas chamber putting the tabs on, demonstrating taking a mask off and putting it back on, while a staff sergent pushed people in the door.) got to do the walk of the 6' snot every month for the better part of a year in OKI. ( I have some good pictures somewhere...) Personally I kinda of like CS, does a good cleaning of the sinuses.

Only experiance with pepper spray was having a cloud blow back at me.... Goes to show one can not trust wind.

Semper Fi

PS Speaking of Okinawa, and hot peppers, they have a small orange pepper there that is about the size of phillips screw tip that is about the hottest thing I have ever had. I dont think I have ever had anything more potent. No idea what they are called....


Mark Heller
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#58988 11/29/05 05:12 AM
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Mark, did you find CS didn't affect everyone with the same severity? When we manufactured CS ammo, using a talc-based CS powder, a small proportion of the workforce, about 10% or less, seemed almost immune, and we selected them for the ops. I've also seen film footage of some rioters seemingly revelling in the stuff. Most others, (like me), got some symtoms even at the low contamination levels inside the building. My boss at that time decided that the extra pay to work on the assembly line, (a few pence per hour), was bull and went down the shop to prove it. He crawled out on his hands and knees and went home violently ill. I think the ops dusted the idiot on his way in!

Alan


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#58989 11/29/05 09:23 PM
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Alan I was going to mention in my previous post, that I did notice something strange. I could be in a SATURATED CS environment for 4 hours straight taking my mask off, yelling at people, take a deep breath, put my mask back on> (Don an clear) and be fine! Then exiting the rich CS environment, the body and lungs would be on fire! I have noticed that the same cane be true with eating hot peppers. You can sit and chew a Habinero, saturate your mouth in it and be fine, until you are done chewing! Take a deep breath, and its like you added oxygen for the real fire to start. That said, I don't think I came accross anyone who immune to the effects, but will say that some do handle them better than others. The ones who paniced got it ten time worse, because they panic, gasp for air that is not there, and freak out. In the proccess of gasping they triple dose themselves.

Anyway, thread jack over....

Trumpy, how was the party?


Mark Heller
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