ECN Forum Forums General Topics of the Trade General Discussion Area Question for Inspectors

John,

Around by me I am starting to see both hard wired and plug connected. I will try to look at see that the cord meets the proper length allowed by the code, but real truth is with out yanking on the cord or pulling out the DW, how can you tell if it is too long? Well, if I see a lot of extra cable lying areound under the sink cabinet, then you can easily tell that it is too long.
As for failing a job even when the EC didn't to the work, I tell the HO or the GC that the job will fail because of XYZ problem, and I know that the problem wasn't caused by the electrician. Now it is up to the HO or the GC to get the job corrected or face the fine. That usually scares the HO in to hiring the EC to fix what ever someone else screwed up.

I have never seen a dish washer or a disposal come with a factory cord on it.
Are they real common?

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A line cord is a regular feature you can order. It is very common to see them here on new construction. Appliances get installed right before the house gets closed or else they tend to walk away.
Cord and plug also makes it easier/safer the next time this gets replaced by the homeowner.

If it's a feature you can order, is it factory installed or done at the appliance store?
I'm not against them, but I suspect most are installed after they leave the factory. Factory installed one,s probably would be more likely to have molded or plastic type press in cord grips

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These are the ones my favorite builder uses and they come from the factory with a cord
http://www.whirlpool.com/catalog/product.jsp?src=DISPOSERS&cat=111&prod=197

I'll bet you a cup of coffee that any LISTED appliance that comes with a FACTORY connected cord will have said cord to the legal code length.

Great discussion here. Thanks for all the input. I was so used to hardwiring these DW's for years and now all of sudden the cord has become more common place, It's good to know about changes as they are taking place. Thanks.

This might be a different direction but, when another trade creates an electrical violation where an electrician has a permit and calls for the inspection it is IMO an electrical violation and goes against the electrician.
The owner is responsible for correcting the defect but it is an electrical violation.
Devices set to deep in drywall, or in wood paneling; balconies or windows at the point of attachment; a double sink put in where a single was planned so there is an outlet on only one side; putting the water heater in front of the panel.
Smoke detectors are not in the electrical code but, the electrician always gets blamed for not having them.
It isn't fair but, it is the Code.
I just write the violation, who fixes it is up to the owner.
Alan--

Alan:
I have to agree 100% with your above post.

John