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Tell them you will do it under one condition. The sister has to become your slave for the rest of her life.

Lear,
many areas have NOT accepted RX as an approved wiring method (NYC for example). You can use AC/MC, EMT/IMC/RGS. Using RX is an area that DOES NOT allow it is tricky...in NYC you cannot even BUY RX. These people, literally, went out of their way to be cheap (RX vs. AC).

I would NOT trim-out the panel. I would explain to the HO and their "contractor" that the install is NOT code compliant and therefore I cannot complete the job - it's unconscionable.
I would further elaborate that while I want to be neighborly, this install WILL come back to haunt them - in the event there is a fire at some point, their HO insurance will NOT pay out on the claim; when it comes time to sell the place, any home inspector WILL "fail" it, if the city requires CO's (or some sort of inspection sale) it WILL fail; etc. This puts the onus on THEM...not YOU.

You could continue that completeing such a job will expose you to liabilities also.

I understand your frustrations (I am good enough to finish the job BUT not worthy enough to handle the job...)...but a little tact and dimplomacy may mend/save the friendship/neighborly and still get the job done properly.

True diplomacy is being able to tell someone to go to hell and have them look forward to the trip."
If you know what I mean...

I would start off by reminding the neighbor that you agreed to run the wires- not just tie them in. Explain that there are reasons for this- for example, your town doesn't allow certain materials.
Look at the job. Explain what you need to do. Give him a shopping list.

The guy might say "gosh, I'm sorry. I didn't know". Mistakes do happen.
Or, he might start arguing, saying no one will know, there's no inspector coming, that the stuff works fine, etc. Then you politely tell him to feel free to do it himself!

I hardly call putting your ass on the line for your neighbors picking a fight.

How you can say he became the "Jerk neighbor" is mind boggling.
Wow.

(Webmaster note: - small edit - c'mon Scott, no Politics ....)

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What Reno said... add a little blame on the insurance company (thanks, LK!) and you're covered.

If she's "good enough" to run the wire, the she better be "good enough" to finish the build... and put the burden of an illegal install on her own shoulders.

BTW - most of the Chicago area lakeshore towns (older than 1940) don't allow NM... we're all EMT/IMC/RMC/MC/Greenfield around here.

Celtic,
Although not directly the topic of conversation, but as of a few years ago, NYC permits NM cable.

Here is a good heads up on finished basements and helping neighbors, it appears an electrician helps finish a basement project, and since there was no premit pulled, there was no hardwire smoke installed, a candle left burning starts a fire, and a little girl never makes it out, they blamed her death on smokes not giving warning, 3Mil plus suit, jury agreed, so a little favor can be very costly, stoy at: www.app.com Search archives Family of fire victim to get $3.5M

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He (the neighbor) knows that the NM is not code. He's not worried about it because he doesn't plan on selling the house anytime soon.

So what are you going to do?

No good deed goes unpunished!

[This message has been edited by Electricmanscott (edited 11-11-2005).]

Of course the neighbor isn't worried about it(NM not being code), he didn't do it. Someone else did( or didn't),your choice.