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If you're going to do it, do it right. Everytime I see shows like that, all I can see is slash and dash. I guess thats the idea?

Do they even have a plan? Hope it has lots of sofets to run through. If not, ask for some in the design. Makes them look slow, and you look like a speed demon.

Might I suggest my favorite layout method, SPRAY PAINT! Run in spray the lay out. Another guy goes in drills the nessesary holes, next two pull wire. Another two land and staple. Splice.... "Cut - thats a wrap."

Dare I say it, its cheezy. But for the sake of us all, look good doing it. And do it well! If you really want to look cool, get all agro, and demand the job be done right, or not at all. The cameras love it....

I don't know if I would classify the whole project/show as a bunch of 2nd rate contractors taking shortcuts, for our "viewing pleasure".

Who hasn't run into a new sub, that does "questionable" work?

I'd like to see the whole stats on the show, and I wouldn't be surprised if problems like this were isolated, and few.

The "ends justify the means".

Most of these people they help, deserve it well.

But if you, the EC, can handle it, and did the best job you could, the name recongnition itself could take you places.


Dnk.......



[This message has been edited by Dnkldorf (edited 09-08-2005).]

Dnk.

You have not worked at all with the entertainment industry at all have you?

I have only had passing experience with it and I have no problem believing that the story in that link is the norm and you would be hard pressed to find the good ones.

The shows product is not the house, the shows product is the show. Do you think the producers care about building codes or the end result after they pack up and leave?

Bob

I'll volunteer if you need a good, fast guy!

Bob, I have no experience in building homes for TV.

I didn't know you did?

What show?


Dnk....

I am the host of "Bob's Hack and Whack Home show".

I never said I had anything to do with a home show.

My limited experience comes from concerts and other similar events. Typically the people backing the event only have one thing on their mind and that is how much can be made.

But maybe I am wrong, maybe the producers of this show are in it to benefit the public at large and are not just concerned with making money.

I can't even type that without laughing.

Bob

I nearly went on the show with Randy, but I opted out.
From what he's told me, my decision was a wise one.
Best of Luck

Bob, I think you get out, what you put in.

Someting on this type scale would require alot of organizing, and some really tight nerves.

My pitfall list would be:
1. No time at all
2. Unfamiliar contractors working together
3. Seemingly uncaring management
4. tight working conditions
5. lack of trained help
6. Volunteer work
7. Host with a bullhorn, annoying
8. Lack of sleep
9. Loss/Hold of current business work


My advantage list would be:
1. Volunteer Work
2. Exposure
3. Challenge


You guys want to add or change to the list?

I have done some fast paced work, "9 Day Denny's", but granted they were not at this scale.


Dnk......

Slight drift in topic, I was watching "Flip this house" or whatever it is called on tv the other day. What a great episode. The show's usual "contractor" operation got caught remodeling a house without a permit. Trouble is that the show seemed bent on making the building official look like the bad guy, and the band aid contractors look like the good guy's who are besieged with inept officials getting in the way of the proffit motive of the company.

Well...EM/HE project 310a Medfield Ma was a surreal experiance for myself and the 45 other electricians from 10 different companies that made up the "Sparky Unit" under my direction. A "once in a lifetime" endeavor that I have no regrets participating in.

The door knock was on Sat. 10/1 and the lucky family was wisped away to an undisclosed location for the week while there new dream home was constructed.On Mon. morning 10/3 we filmed the braveheart demo scene and at around 1pm the construction went into full speed forward. At 9:30 that evening I set the 25 ft of 2/0 copper in the footer for a UFER ground for the home.They used a truck with a conveyor belt to load the concrete into the forms.On Tuesday at 7am as I arrived on site to start installation of the 300 amp service, It was apparent that things were a little behind schedule (about 6 hrs), they had just finished pouring the foundation, and it would be a couple of hours till they stripped the forms.

We were scheduled to start roughing at 8pm Tue. evening 10/4 and it didn't look like that was happening. But the frammers kicked butt and the 1st floor was set and they were working on the 2nd as the first wave of HVAC, Plumbers and Sparky's started roughing at about 9:30pm. It was crowded,it was hot,the basement was an oven with the cement curing, but everyone got along with each other.

Well, much to my dismay, the 2 design producers(Caren & Sinead), who were supposed to do a walk through with me before we started roughing, were back at their hotel resting. The PM had sent them there because he figured that they wouldn't be needed till the next morning.It was their job to relay the design teams(Ty, Connie, Michael, Ed, and Daniel) wishes to all the trades. After trying to talk to Sinead on the phone for 30 minutes about the detailed items that the design team wanted, I told her she had better get her butt out of bed and get down to the site and show us.Well, she did...

We weren't able to start the 2nd floor till about 1am Wed. morning and the frammers continued to use 1 bedroom as a cutting area for framming needs on the roof.We were all tired as this is normally sleep time for all of us. But the crew kept on pulling romex and we finished the majority of it by 6am. We plated, stapled,picked up and checked everything for an hour and passed inspection at 7am. After 26 hours on my feet, I'm feeling pretty much like a zombie and head home for a nap and a shower.

Back on site at 1pm Wed. Send home my right hand man(Paul)who had stayed on site to do odds & ends for some rest.They have insulated, boarded and are setting up to plaster.The utility company had just completed hookup of the service. I'm told that we are only 2 hours behind schedule.We need to set up alot of temporary power for the drying fans that are used to speed up the plaster drying and are all over the place and for the finish carpenters that are setting up many chop saws for the finish carpentry.

"The Home Team" a coalition of area builders had rented a house ajacent to the site where command central was set up. I had taken over a room in the house for the Sparky Unit to meet and discuss daily approaches to tasks. I had blueprints taped to the wall for all team leaders to review. This worked well for us. It was somewhat quiet and we could make phone calls,etc. There was a cell tower close by, and cell phone reception was great.

I spent Wed. nite in that office on a mattress on the floor.The PM (Alan) had asked for an electrician to be on site at all times.

I woke at 5am Thur. 10/6 and 50 painters were gearing up to go in and paint the place. We were back on schedule now, as the plasterers, finish carpenters had made up the time.

We chipped away at finish items Thursday early in the day,outside lighting, basement panel tie in and interior areas that were ready for us. I had scheduled the whole crew at 5pm for the electrical trim out.

Everything was on schedule now and it was looking like "The Home Team" was going to make the 5pm deadline Friday 10/7 for handing the keys for the home to the show. Well, do to great team work and cooperation from all volunteers, we were ready an hour prior to that deadline!

What an awesome experiance for me.The electrical wiring of the home was a TEAM effort from 45 great electricians. A special thanx to my assistants "Paul" and "Larry". Also Sparky Unit master electrician Bill was tops when it came to knowledge of speciality wiring.

FACTS:

1)There were 1600 volunteers who contributed to the project...

2)45 electricians and apprentices contributed to the wiring with the rough completed on 10/5 and the finish completed on 10/7 two days later...

3) The show will air 11/20/05 on ABC at 8pm eastern time. On 11/13/05 the Wells Maine makeover will air at 8pm eastern standard time.

I personally thank everyone of them for their effort.

For more info about the Medfield project go to:
www.wishesforwilliam.org

Watch Extreme Makeover/Home Edition Sunday nights at 8pm eastern time on ABC...

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