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OK, for those of you who do not know me, I'm an active EC, (25 yrs) and a P/T inspector, as an employee of a township, not a third party guy.
As an EC, we leave our jobs "clean" for final, like the majority of "us" do, and we also take pride in what we do.
As an AHJ, NO I do not and will not remove plates and/or devices. YES, I remove the 4-6 screws for a panel inspection, and NO, I will not open a large I-line type panel, or any parts of switchgear.
"Appointments" in my twp are "made" by calling myself or the FT AHJ on the AM of your scheduled day for a "ballpark" time, usually "between 10-12" or "11:30/12" We do not 'schedule' the day, the office staff does that. Yes, we 'squeeze' in the occasional "I'm in trouble" call, but it's tight with 15+ scheduled stops.
As to the original "dust" thing; above and beyond the call of duty?? Most, if not all the resi new construction guys 'rough wipe' all the junk from the boxes when they trim-out.
IF opening all the device covers were a required inspection item, some days I may be able to do ONE house. Liability is also an issue; push the device back in, skin a hot, who gets to 'fix' it??
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When I finish a house(plug & switch)I go to each device box and remove drywall compound and brush out the box with my fingers. The GC on the job I originally posted about shop vacs the job every day. He doesn't cut trim inside the house. He uses fiberglass insulation in the walls. There isn't any combustable dust in the boxes. I may not wipe the boxes out with a damp cloth but I assure you they are not tinderboxes by any stretch of the imagination. The inspector goes around to EVERY receptacle and tests for correct wiring, voltage drop and GFCI/AFCI where it applies. This is a house I mentioned on another thread that I ran all the homeruns in EMT to pull boxes in the crawl and ran NM from the pull boxes to the branches. He doesn't like that either. He says I shouldn't mix wiring methods on a job. He says as soon as he finds a code article to back him up he'll fail me down the road for doing it. Inspecting is a new responsibility for him. His main responsibility is being the weights and measures officer for the county. It totally amazes me that I am required to pass an exam,show proof of liability and pay a licensing fee to the county every year so I can be inspected and regulated by someone whose only job requirement is that they have a pulse and can check a box on a form that says Pass/Fail. Don't get me wrong, I am all for inspections and permits. I just think that an inspector should have to meet minimum standards of knowledge in the trade he's inspecting and keep updated with the codes.
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Fred:
OK, a 'multi-task' inspector on your end.
Here the electrical inspectors have to:
Trade experience (5 YEARS)
Test, written; ICS, HHS, Plan Review
Further is a "Sub-Code" course for Administrative skills.
Also, Continuing Ed. is required; 3x8 hrs for AHJ, additional 3x8 for Administrative, and 34 for your EC License.
Take care
John
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